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re: GA SecStateOffice denies State Election board access to communications w/election workers
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:49 am to i am dan
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:49 am to i am dan
Is this forward looking or existing communications?
If Raf isn't turning over communications that have already occurred, I get the issue. If Raf is denying a private organization access to a government app for real time monitoring, I don't really get the legal argument here.
If Raf isn't turning over communications that have already occurred, I get the issue. If Raf is denying a private organization access to a government app for real time monitoring, I don't really get the legal argument here.
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:55 am to tiger91
quote:
this legal?
It shouldn’t be.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 11:59 am to Pettifogger
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Kemp not being in direct coordination with Trump poll watchers/lawyers doesn't mean they won't be used. I guarantee you Trump poll watchers and lawyers will be on the ground in GA
Agreed.
There have been many threads on this topic. The RNC are better prepared this election.
We can only hope it will be effective enough, but it won't be as easy for Dems this time.
There will be bright spotlights on the precincts in important counties in swing states.
This post was edited on 8/7/24 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:01 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
private organization
Is the State Election Board a private organization?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:05 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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From your local knowledge, do you think...
-the 2020 Georgia election was stolen from Trump?
-the 2024 presidential results in Georgia will be legitimate?
2020 had high levels of voter fraud and election official malfeasance - more than enough to change election outcomes. Mail in ballots. Dekalb County (east Atlanta) is the epicenter of fraud. Not one precinct in Dekalb was majority Trump. Usually there are a few precincts in N Dekalb that have a little red. Yes, there was fraud in the downtown Atlanta Fulton County precincts, but Dekalb is where they insured their cheat.
There was cheating in the senate runoff as well (held 1/2021). Again mail-in ballots and many from out of state. Loeffler and Perdue both could have eked out a win, but red voters in north Georgia (250k) that had voted in November 2020 did not vote in the run off. I say they could have eked it out if N GA voters had come back, but the cheaters may have had enough suitcases of ballots to overcome that.
As to 2024. I feel just slightly better but still not confident in the outcome.
I live and operate in the real estate domain. Since the plandemic, GA has gained an outsized number of new residents from NY, CA and the midwest (IL, MI) and south FL (would guess 250k+ people).
I do not believe these are red voters escaping their blue state hell holes.
They are blue voters escaping their blue state hell holes (excepting the FL folks) and moving to GA thinking it is a blue state now. Appears that the S FL transplants are former blue state transplants moved to FL to escape but found the weather too hot and the politics to red. So, these are blue voters as well.
So, I think there are more blue voters in GA now than in 2020.
As to voter integrity. It will be only slightly better. But... with Brad Raffensperger as SOS and his sidekick Gabe Sterling and Chris Carr as Attorney General, I am not confident that voter fraud prevention/inspection will be enforced. The only good thing now vs 2020 is that 3rd parties (including the governor) can pursue fraud claims. I'm just not confident Raffy will be helpful and think he may even be a contributor.
Ballot harvesting is now illegal in GA (2021 law). However, I think it will still happen in GA. Will it be prosecuted -- I have my doubts with Raffy and Carr.
If red voters turn out to vote, Trump should win GA but, with the all the new blue voters, it may not be as large as we want it to be.
So, bottom line, I hope the new laws make the vote legit but I am not confident.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:13 pm to BaldEagleHey
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So, bottom line, I hope the new laws make the vote legit but I am not confident.
Much obliged. That's the most sensible analysis I have seen...anywhere.
As someone who thinks the last election was stolen in Georgia, I didn't see enough change from last time that made me confident in the 2024 process. I agree with you, it's a question of enforcement.
With the same cast of characters, unfortunately, I don't forsee a change.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:17 pm to IvoryBillMatt
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-the 2020 Georgia election was stolen from Trump?
-the 2024 presidential results in Georgia will be legitimate?
Yes, No as it stands at this time.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:27 pm to GumboPot
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GumboPot
quote:
I currently estimate that Trump needs to be up by 2% in polling to overcome GA election mis and malfeasance. Some posters on this message board think Trump needs to be up by as much as 4%. If what you say is true and election integrity measures have been implement since 2020 and will be enforced on election day on November 5th, I can lower my required Trump poll lead down to 0.5% for a Trump GA victory.
Integrity measures have to be enforced. Doubtful that Dekalb and Gwinnett counties will follow the law. Both are bastions of woke ways now.
Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA now (2021 law). However, I feel pretty confident that it will still happen and doubt will be caught or prosecuted. Thus, polling has little meaning for me in the 2024 election.
I think Trump needs to be up 5% in polling in GA to feel somewhat confident of overcoming the harvesting.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:37 pm to Eurocat
We know you have no clue as to "what" because MSNBC hasn't clued you leftist nerds who still believe "no fraud," in on the proven election fraud that has been exposed in Georgia... But for those of us that are aware of it and get legitimate news instead of DNC propaganda, we know why Georgia Election Board members wish to speak to election workers.
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:37 pm to Pettifogger
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If Raf is denying a private organization access to a government app for real time monitoring, I don't really get the legal argument here.
The GA State Election Board is a private organization?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:38 pm to Pettifogger
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LOL
You're center left compared to me
Sure, pal... All you TDS Ronbot/Kempfags are totes "super conservative."
Posted on 8/7/24 at 12:40 pm to lake chuck fan
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The willful lack of transparency is stunning ….
It's also very telling..... In what way would communications being monitored make anyone feel intimidated????
I suppose if the workers communications contain evidence or information about cheating, THEN the monitoring would cause them to feel intimidated!!!!
Even if true..... The negative consequences to our nation if election fraud/cheating occurs certainly outweighs an election workers feelings.
fricking ridiculous argument. Anyone supporting fair elections would agree to total transparency. Period.
This. 100%
Posted on 8/7/24 at 1:14 pm to the808bass
I thought it was True The Vote but i reread the post now.
If she’s got the authority to seek this, definitely seems suspect to stonewall her
This sounds more positive than this board overall though:
If she’s got the authority to seek this, definitely seems suspect to stonewall her
This sounds more positive than this board overall though:
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Posted on 8/7/24 at 1:31 pm to AUauditor
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Apparently, there are a lot of people who don't understand some of us who complained about Trump attacking leaders in the State of Georgia at a rally when he should be attacking Harris' (lack of effective) policies.
This has nothing to do with feels.
Weird how you didn't address the OP. Are you supporting Raffy's decision to keep the public out of the know?
Posted on 8/7/24 at 1:54 pm to TigerB8
@lou Pai your thoughts?
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