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re: FoxNews just kicked Tucker Carlson to the curb

Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:32 am to
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:32 am to
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What did he say about Dominion?


Here are a sample of quotes that came out of testimony that were made public before Fox settled for $787 million

Tucker Carlson: 'The software s--t is absurd'
IN PRIVATE: On Nov. 8, Carlson privately texted his producer that the allegations about Dominion were "absurd," according to the Dominion filing. Also that day, Carlson's producer texted him about his own doubts.

"I don't think there is evidence of voter fraud that swung the election," producer Alex Pfeiffer texted to Carlson, per the lawsuit. "The software s--t is absurd," Carlson allegedly responded. "Half our viewers have seen the Maria clip."

ON-AIR: On his show just one night later, Carlson pushed more suggestions of fraud, though he said "we don't know anything about the software."

"We don't know how many votes were stolen on Tuesday night. We don't know anything about the software that many say was rigged. We don't know. We ought to find out," he said. "But here's what we do know. On a larger level, at the highest levels, actually, our system isn't what we thought it was. It's not as fair as it should be. Not even close."

Carlson during this show also said that "false claims of fraud can be every bit as destructive as the fraud itself," according to the filing, and that "[T]he fraud that we can confirm does not seem to be enough to alter the election results. We should be honest and tell you that..."

That was part of the Defamation suit that Fox Settled. Tucker was not the worst in pushing the Dominion machines allowed for fraud, Dobbs, Pirro and Bartiromo were way more pushing this stuff.

Dobbs is gone, Tucker is gone, Pirro and Bartiromo are not. Bongino, also gone.

I have already raised the possibility that the women are not getting fired due to prior sexual harassment settlements involving Ailes (Gretchen Carlson, Meg. Kelly, etc) and the Bill O'Reilly settlement (unnamed women due to non-disclosure agreements).

Just me, I look at the evidence, and take out my political and opinions out when I try and analyze issues and situations.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:46 am to
TC wasn’t fired because of Dominion or the lawsuit that’s still in play. It was J6, pharma, unrelenting criticism of the GOP, aggressive posture on freedom of speech and the MSM being government stooge. How many members of congress called for him to be nuzzled?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:02 am to
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That was part of the Defamation suit that Fox Settled. Tucker was not the worst in pushing the Dominion machines allowed for fraud, Dobbs, Pirro and Bartiromo were way more pushing this stuff.


The fact you think any of those statements are of legal import just means you’re a dumbass.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20729 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 7:13 am to
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I'm puzzled about the reports that Suzanne Scott was involved in the decision as I agree she needs to be fired. The blurring of the lines between news and opinion shows is her doing.


WSJ (owned by Murdoch, of course) has a story out today saying that part of the reason for the firing is that Tucker called her a c*nt and then doubled down on it.

LINK

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Several weeks ago, as Fox News lawyers prepared for a courtroom showdown with Dominion Voting Systems, they presented Tucker Carlson with what they thought was good news: They had persuaded the court to redact from a legal filing the time he called a senior Fox News executive the c-word, according to people familiar with the matter. 

Mr. Carlson, Fox News’s most-watched prime-time host, wasn’t impressed. He told his colleagues that he wanted the world to know what he had said about the executive in a private message, the people said. Mr. Carlson said comments he made about former President Donald Trump—“I hate him passionately”—that were in the court documents were said during a momentary spasm of anger, while his dislike of this executive was deep and enduring.


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The private messages in which Mr. Carlson showed disregard for management and colleagues were a major factor in that decision, according to other people familiar with the matter. 
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4229 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 9:46 am to
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TC wasn’t fired because of Dominion or the lawsuit that’s still in play. It was J6, pharma, unrelenting criticism of the GOP, aggressive posture on freedom of speech and the MSM being government stooge. How many members of congress called for him to be nuzzled?


No that is what you want to believe he was fired of. The Press reports have been all over this but the Dominion suit was part of it.

The only person claiming it was Pharma is the Late Bobby Kennedy's son Robert Kennedy Jr., who I respect even though my politics do not align with him on most issues.

You are making a conjecture that he was fired for those reasons, other than Dominion, I have seen no reports leaked suggesting that he was.

I just saw on that old Man Murdock was about to get married to a Fundamentalist Protestant Christian Lady who really liked Tucker Carlson and always said how cute he was and smart and old Man Murdock dumped her because of Jealously, or that was among the reasons as well.

There are reports that Suzanne Scott, Who I mentioned in an early post is the source of dropping all these leaks about why Tucker was filed and she has a "Dossier" on Tucker. Who knows if it is true?

Suzanne Scott is going after Tucker to save her own skin because she was a exec. involved with Programming and she approved all the Dominion coverage on Fox.

I raised the question earlier, why hasn't she been fired, along with Pirro and Bartrimono, Dobbs, Bongino and Tucker all fired! Perhaps a pattern here, get rid of the alpha male types, etc first and then hope all the fake news charges about Dominion that Fox competitors are using to go after them goes away.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:01 pm to
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The Press reports have been all over this but the Dominion suit was part of it.

The Press has a shitty track record of getting things right, not to mention its propensity to make shite up.

Carlson had little to do with the Dominion suit. Look through the documents. Hell, the OP points out how little he was involved. In fact, doesn't he repeatedly say things like "don't know anything about the software stuff"? Posters on this board hated him for ignoring "the steal". If Carlson was going to be fired for Dominion, it would have been six months after Hannity had been.

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The only person claiming it was Pharma is the Late Bobby Kennedy's son Robert Kennedy Jr., who I respect even though my politics do not align with him on most issues.

Take all those things and roll them up, and that's what I'm suggesting got him fired. He pissed off a lot of monied/powerful players - pharma included.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38547 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:21 pm to
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The fact you think any of those statements are of legal import just means you’re a dumbass.


Yeah you’ve really nailed this thing from the jump
Posted by MilwaukeeKosherDills
Member since Aug 2021
481 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 12:22 pm to
Sergey Lavrov, Russian foreign minister, was also disappointed by the Carlson firing.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 1:03 pm to
Well ... that would do it. Still, she should have been fired a while back.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125553 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 1:22 pm to
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Yeah you’ve really nailed this thing from the jump


You never add anything. Just drive by and throw out something. frick back off.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62610 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 1:25 pm to
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I raised the question earlier, why hasn't she been fired, along with Pirro and Bartrimono, Dobbs, Bongino and Tucker all fired!
Im not sure you’re actually familiar with Carlson’s content. He took A LOT of heat from Trump supporters for NOT talking about dominon and the election issues.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4229 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:20 pm to
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FoxNews just kicked Tucker Carlson to the curb
quote:
The Press reports have been all over this but the Dominion suit was part of it.

The Press has a shitty track record of getting things right, not to mention its propensity to make shite up.

Carlson had little to do with the Dominion suit. Look through the documents. Hell, the OP points out how little he was involved. In fact, doesn't he repeatedly say things like "don't know anything about the software stuff"? Posters on this board hated him for ignoring "the steal". If Carlson was going to be fired for Dominion, it would have been six months after Hannity had been.

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The only person claiming it was Pharma is the Late Bobby Kennedy's son Robert Kennedy Jr., who I respect even though my politics do not align with him on most issues.

Take all those things and roll them up, and that's what I'm suggesting got him fired. He pissed off a lot of monied/powerful players - pharma included.


He was involved, but not to the degree of other folks, as I said. He pissed off the Left, I agree, there is a theory that Abby Grossberg was a DNC plant as one of her now public disclosures was that Tucker and disrespectful pictures of Nancy Pelosi.

Tucker made lots of enemies, I agree, Dominion was part of it, Feminist organizations, Pentagon was upset because he criticized the Military for changing standards to allow Females in positions that prior standards would not allow them to do, of course he criticized the preferred pronouns Navy leader, etc. Some scuttlebutt by former Fox employees hinting at his Ukraine coverage was outside the bounds of journalism standards (some reports hinting at that) as well.

I agree he made lots of enemies and forces other than Dominion, which are likely part of him being fired (none substantiated yet), but his text saying the Dominion Election fraud is BS privately and running stories about it publicly are part, not all, of Dominion getting $787 Million from Fox in a court.

From a pure economics and finance perspective, that is a lot of money for shareholders to have to pay. So hypothetically, what if Shareholders threatened Murdock that if Tucker is not gone, they are going to sue for damages. That is a distinct possibility.
This post was edited on 4/26/23 at 2:35 pm
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4229 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:32 pm to
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Im not sure you’re actually familiar with Carlson’s content. He took A LOT of heat from Trump supporters for NOT talking about dominon and the election issues.


At first yes, as on 8 November he privately stated the entire thing was BS (that is now publicly known). Tons of Fox viewers got pissed off over the Arizona call. To appease that segment of Trump voters, Chris Stirewalt got fired even though he was correct.

Because Fox was losing voters to Newsmax over the Arizona call, they made an executive decision to cover the Dominion case. Tucker started to cover it, when he had already said privately the entire Dominion thing is BS. He tried to say well maybe it should be looked into, etc ,etc. So I am very well what Tucker did.

I voted for Trump and he lost. The reality is the GOP has not won a majority of the vote in 7 of the last 8 elections. Bush 2 did in 2004 and Bush 1 in 1992, Clinton won the most votes in 92 and 96 (plurality) and Gore won more votes in 2000. Yes, I know we have an electoral college but this pattern which has been going on for 30 years makes the GOP to have to walk a tightrope to win National elections.

Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
38547 posts
Posted on 4/26/23 at 2:59 pm to
Says the guy whose whole schtick is to act holier than thou and throw out insults while being wrong about goddam everything

Right back at ya, champ
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