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Former US DOJ Double arse’t AG Jeff Clark explains how the 84 million is illegal.

Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
1348 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:45 am
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The original verdict was about $5 million, which should be res judicata between Trump and Carroll for damage to her reputation.

But the new verdict is over $83 million.

This makes no mathematical sense and cannot be squared with the law of preclusion. The only way that the damages for renewed defamation could exceed the original $5 million is by virtue of a new punitive damages component which itself cannot be unmoored to baseline compensatory damages. A reputation once injured and compensated cannot be recompensed a second time at more than an order of magnitude higher than the original recompense.

But the damages here do not meet those basic conditions. Ergo, it is illogical. Ergo, it is illegal. Ergo, it is a travesty of justice.



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Posted by Macduff
Member since Dec 2023
151 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:46 am to
Wait, I thought y’all weren’t obsessed with the dollar amount? Nikki said y’all were and the board had a fit saying y’all weren’t.

Which is it??????
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74457 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:47 am to
Whats wrong with you?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
2461 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:48 am to
I was thinking about this when I read the reports of the verdict. Punitive damages cannot exceed a certain ratio to underlying damages, so the verdict likely won’t hold up on appeal. The res judicata issue is interesting. The judge should not have bifurcated the trials like he did.
Posted by Iron Lion
Sipsey
Member since Nov 2014
11847 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:49 am to
He's another moron alter
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167583 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:52 am to
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Whats wrong with you?


He's a chickenshit alter just here to troll and can't even do it under his real username. Ignore him.
Posted by Swamp Angel
Georgia
Member since Jul 2004
7317 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:53 am to
Macmuff's new, surgically created vagina is causing undue discomfort during the healing process after the transition surgery. That's the reason for the continuous unhinged commentary.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424104 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:53 am to
quote:

The original verdict was about $5 million, which should be res judicata between Trump and Carroll for damage to her reputation.


Aren't these 2 separate incidents/trials/awards?

If so, his argument quoted above is incorrect and the rest of his argument after is non-responsive.

If the awards flow from the same tort, he has an argument.
Posted by Macduff
Member since Dec 2023
151 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:55 am to
Posted by holdem Tiger
Member since Oct 2007
1071 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:57 am to
quote:

which should be res judicata


quote:

renewed defamation


Jeff Clark sounds like an idiot

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74457 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 10:59 am to
Probably rmnldr
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9616 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:07 am to
Get ready for the two shittiest lawyers in the world who spend every waking hour on this board to come into this thread and disagree.

Edit: sorry, one of them is already here
This post was edited on 1/27/24 at 11:08 am
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
5133 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Wait, I thought y’all weren’t obsessed with the dollar amount? Nikki said y’all were and the board had a fit saying y’all weren’t.

Which is it??????

Someday something egregiously unethical and illegal is going to happen to you and it's going to be fricking hilarious imagining you melting.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
72036 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:19 am to
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rmnldr
Posted by iHEARTcorndogs
Island of Misfit Corndogs
Member since Oct 2023
1034 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:22 am to
Did that lithium ever work out for you?
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
4989 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:27 am to
Have a downvote you fkn moron.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80440 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Get ready for the two shittiest lawyers in the world who spend every waking hour on this board to come into this thread and disagree.


Yeah, Jeff has had a pretty accurate read on everything thus far.

Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64520 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 11:42 am to
Paid troll.
As a Ron supporter I can spot them quick
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
12150 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 12:48 pm to
Clark is right but this is not the way it goes down with a NY jury and corrupt Dem judge.

Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
20303 posts
Posted on 1/27/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Whats wrong with you?


She’s a dumbass leftist groomer. Like the rest of them, she is mentally damaged
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