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re: For you Abraham Lincoln haters out there, Razorfist just dropped a video on his channel...
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:43 pm to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:43 pm to Errerrerrwere
So you are changing the subject as many apologists seem to do when confronted with the realities.
You start off asking about the legalities of secession and how Lincoln overstepped to asking about Emancipation in LA. Try staying coherent unlike many Confederate apologists
You start off asking about the legalities of secession and how Lincoln overstepped to asking about Emancipation in LA. Try staying coherent unlike many Confederate apologists
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Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:45 pm to KiwiHead
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So you are changing the subject as many apologists seem to do when confronted with the realities.
Ok. You just showed your commie arse.
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You start off asking about the legalities of secession and how Lincoln overstepped to asking about Emancipation in LA. Try staying coherent unlike many Confederate apologists
Nope. Try again.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:55 pm to RollTide1987
Interesting. He dropped some truth bombs.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 9:58 pm to KiwiHead
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Try staying coherent unlike many Confederate apologists
He can’t. Mostly bc he has no idea wtf he’s talking about…research is boring.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:21 pm to cwill
Brah
. So much dumbass in this thread. Lol not one country in history has ever had to free a sub group and persecuted and enslaved people by means of war except america? Are you insane? Lolol
. So much dumbass in this thread. Lol not one country in history has ever had to free a sub group and persecuted and enslaved people by means of war except america? Are you insane? Lolol
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Was it a failure of leadership when bush went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan?
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:24 pm to RollTide1987
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For you Abraham Lincoln haters out there, Razorfist just dropped a video on his channel
Not sure if this is a troll, but Lincoln did very fascist things during the war. He jailed newspaper publishers located in States that didn't secede who published criticisms of the war, and he suspended habeas corpus.
The Lincoln-Douglass debates are also worth a read. Honest Abe would be cancelled today.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:25 pm to RollTide1987
Andrew Jackson was America’s first dictator
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:27 pm to Giantkiller
A lot of people who believe the concept of states rights was fundamentally broken by the civil war are not huge Lincoln fans.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:41 pm to jonnyanony
Is a states right to secede even hinted at anywhere in any official document? No. Because there is no right to secede. I don't think y'all understand how serious it would be today for a state to say "we are no longer a part of the US because we want to keep these people as our personal property.". Did they not expect to get slaughtered for such a stance? The brash arrogance of the south is astounding, and was visited upon by a just God.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 10:47 pm to INTmachine
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Is a states right to secede even hinted at anywhere in any official document?
No, it was never part of the Constitution, but it's never been codified similarly that a state cannot leave they union.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:15 pm to INTmachine
The 10th amendment grants all powers not explicitly given to congress or forbade by the constitution to the states and the people. Since the document didn’t expressly forbid secession, that power belonged to the states. That is the argument frequently used.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:19 pm to INTmachine
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Was it a failure of leadership when bush went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan?
100%. Rather than thinking logically about the causes and circumstances of 9/11, Bush launched two completely ill-thought invasions of sovereign nations with no end-game or exit strategy besides vengeance. As a result, both were expensive quagmires that served only to bankrupt the United States, bleed our youth, destabilize the Middle East, and slaughter hundreds of thousands of Arabs, Persians, and Afghanis. That’s the best case take on what happened assuming that the official story of 9/11 is even accurate.
Posted on 1/15/23 at 11:46 pm to kingbob
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As a result, both were expensive quagmires that served only to bankrupt the United States,
Social spending is what will bankrupt the US. I’m not necessarily defending our foreign policy but those wars were discrete events and not that expensive.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:21 am to INTmachine
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It was handled the way God handles all sin...
Is slavery a sin tho??
Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:26 am to RollTide1987
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does a good job of painting him as America's first dictator
Shouldn't take a lot of effort. He absolutely was.
Now, whether one "excuses" this (and the actions for which the moniker applies) is another question.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 7:55 am to INTmachine
quote:He threw journalists in jail for criticizing him
Lincoln is the single most greatest being to ever occupy office in history except for some of Israel's kings.
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:45 am to RollTide1987
100% truth. I have been posting many of those facts on here for years.
Lincoln is one of the greatest propaganda examples in American history.
If there is any justice in this world, he and that bastard Sherman are both burning in hell.
Lincoln is one of the greatest propaganda examples in American history.
If there is any justice in this world, he and that bastard Sherman are both burning in hell.
This post was edited on 1/16/23 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/16/23 at 8:47 am to RollTide1987
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does a good job of painting him as America's first dictator
Posted on 1/16/23 at 9:05 am to RollTide1987
Still bitter he freed the slaves ?
Sherman was Right too
Sherman was Right too
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