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re: For those who hate Trump, tell us why you think he was a bad POTUS. Be specific.

Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:10 pm to
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9289 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:10 pm to
It’s a picture of what the tards say

I’ve never said something so stupid, even when Biden has his arse wiped. If the president says something, by definition, it’s presidential.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9939 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:13 pm to
He knew the FBI and the DOJ along with the "17 intelligence agencies" lied their collective assess off to the people of the United States and was well within his rights to destroy these MFers and whined and complained.

And a ton of other things he could have done domestically with regards to federal agencies and depts and chose to grow the government.

Now, as far as his actual job as POTUS, acting on behalf of the States as their foreign agent, no new wars, bringing the NATO suckers to task, peace in the middle East, settling down N Korea, and being the arbiter between states for free and fair trade.....

he did a damned good job as compared to many of his predecessors.

Its also a shame that in his attempts to get out of military conflicts the Left and the Right and the Media fought him tooth and nail.

Also agree with other posters about being a bit sloppy politically and spending and covid.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
7307 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:14 pm to
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Embarrassing antics


Posted by MorningWood
On the coast of North Mexico
Member since May 2009
2787 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:17 pm to
This thread is why a civics test should be administered prior to letting anyone vote
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
1980 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:17 pm to
Jack up National Debt
Spend half of his Presidency golfing or on vacation, but his supporters talked about President Obama on his vacations and golfing, not even close in comparison
Divided the country with his grievance politics
Bully tactics during International conferences was embarrassing and also his whining about NATO partners did nothing but cause tension
Claim that Mexico would pay for a wall, which never happened or was gonna happen and never got completed
Surround himself with a bunch of terrible hires and yes men/women
Actions and or inactions on Jan 6th
The Big Lie
And his refusal to take accountability for his actions or bad policy choices
Nepotism hires of family members to administration jobs which they we’re totally unqualified for to begin with
Constant praise for dictators and authoritarian leaders
Contempt for Democratic principles

Posted by Mr Gardocki
Member since Jul 2023
238 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:24 pm to
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And if he wins he will alienate 2/3 of the country, get nothing important done, and cost us future elections.


This is asinine to say. He accomplished plenty and had the best economy in recent history.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125360 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:27 pm to
I don’t hate him and I don’t think he was a bad POTUS.

I think his long-lasting results are confined to Supreme Court nominees. Not a small feat.

But he failed at doing anything constructive with spending.

And he largely failed in addressing Covid.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5720 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:28 pm to
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best economy in recent history.



What is recent history?

Annual GDP growth was 3.9% under Clinton. 3.5% under Reagan. 2.5% Bush.

Trump and Obama were both under 2%.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15974 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:35 pm to
There are positives but a few negative particulars



1.
Debt
When Trump entered office in January 2017, the national debt was nearly $19.9 trillion,.

The debt hit just over $26.9 trillion by the end of the fiscal year in 2020.

Horrible!

2. Covid
His response to Covid was wierd. The rush for the vaccine was flawed and played into the hands of big Pharma.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 5:36 pm
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
11292 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 5:40 pm to
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For those who hate Trump, tell us why you think he was a bad POTUS. Be specific.

He didn't shower with any of his teen age children and he didn't have foreign countries kick back laundered money to his children.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112482 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:04 pm to
Ceded authority to Fauci.

Shut down the country and wrecked the economy as well as the mental health of tens of millions of people.

Didn't use his veto when and where he should have.

CAVEAT: I don't hate Trump and plan to vote for him. But these are legitimate areas of criticism.
This post was edited on 8/14/23 at 6:06 pm
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3586 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:06 pm to
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Added $7,400,000,000,000 to he national debt
Surrounded himself with Bolton Hailey Barr Sessions Diamond Silk Scarramucci
Fell for the Covid scam without a fight
Embarrassing antics

One post in, bam!
Posted by countrytiger60
Larose
Member since Sep 2018
4225 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:14 pm to
and how many billions did Biden give to the Ukraine!
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:40 pm to
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and how many billions did Biden give to the Ukraine!




Discussion isn't about the Potato.

Just say you can't refute anything said about Trump.

Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 6:57 pm to
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I will forever be grateful that he pulled the mask off the dreadful Chinese Communist Party,

Eh. It's "bad Chyna" on Monday and "I love Xi" on Tues
Posted by ken757
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2010
267 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:03 pm to
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Added more debt to this country than any other president in history besides Obama. Is that specific enough?


And he did it in 4 years. Say what you want about Obama; he was handed an absolute economic shite show after 2008. So, yes, he spent a lot of money, cleaning up what the Bush admin left behind.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

Eh. It's "bad Chyna" on Monday and "I love Xi" on Tues



34D chess pal.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4738 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:08 pm to
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Annual GDP growth was 3.9% under Clinton. 3.5% under Reagan. 2.5% Bush. Trump and Obama were both under 2%.


And what’s even more telling is if you remove the Trump’s COVID year (2020), and Bush’s last year, (2008), Trump’s avg GDP growth was 2.49% and Bush’s was 2.51. And that includes 9/11.

But muh greatest economy eva.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16603 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:09 pm to
Fired up the cash printers
Made thousands of lawful gun owners felons for owning an accessory
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8687 posts
Posted on 8/14/23 at 7:11 pm to
I certainly don’t hate GOB at all and think he was a good president.

I do think many have themselves convinced his return to the WH will usher in a 4-year “Hell to Pay” vengeance tour and a virtual 1-man revolution that will see the Deep State swept away.

I think a lot of folks are setting themselves up for ultimate disappointment in that respect, even if he can manage to return to the presidency.

I think if he returns, we can hopefully get back on track with what he had made good strides with in his first term: trying to work towards energy independence, peace instead of perpetual war, returning blue collar manufacturing to the country and actually treating our immigration laws like something that matters.
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