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re: For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:18 pm to mouton
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:18 pm to mouton
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Why then do we constantly hear liberals chant about the need for better access to affordable birth control?
Without insurance, pills can cost close to $50/month on the high end. Some girls can only take certain types. That would be $600/year. Not pocket change for someone with limited income.
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Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:20 pm to mmcgrath
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Are you saying a mother should have the option of having an abortion all the way up going into labor if she so chooses? yes.
You’re okay with killing this human being? Just because the mother doesn’t want it? Talk about an inconvenient truth.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:39 pm to pizzatiger
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Without insurance, pills can cost close to $50/month on the high end.
The pill that the overwhelming majority of women use is ten bucks a month at Walamrt
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:58 pm to mouton
At conception because I don't deny science.
I'm well aware of what abortion is.
I've stated my reasons for supporting.
I'm well aware of what abortion is.
I've stated my reasons for supporting.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 4:59 pm to mouton
The bible says life begins at first breath
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:06 pm to Vecchio Cane
quote:this is not accurate.quote:As I understand them, Plan B options interrupt or prevent ovulation, so no pregnancy ever occurs.
OK What's the difference?
Plan B does not prevent ovulation. Ovulation predates fertilization. Plan B prevents implantation of the fertilized ova (the zygote) on the wall of the uterus.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:14 pm to ShortyRob
quote:The nickname "Plan B" comes from the longstanding idea of needing a backup plan.quote:Well, Plan B can't be taken at the point one would know they're pregnant. I mean, I suppose you could physically take it, but that's not what plan B is for
Not if it is taken the next day without knowledge of whether or not there is a life within the womb. If there is a life and it’s known prior, then it is murder. Pure and simple.
The intent of "Plan B" pills is for the woman who wakes the next morning and realizes "Oh, shite, I let him ride bareback last night," and can pop a pill to be sure that said ride does not result in implantation of a fertilized ovum.
And THIS is where abortion opponents who do NOT oppose Plan B run into philosophical problems. Their arguments uniformly rely (at least in part) on the premise that the zygote/blastocyst/embryo/fetus is a "genetically distinct human life." The same is true of the zygote/blastocyst that is created during unprotected sex and whose cells are rapidly dividing and growing, but that will "die" when it is precluded from implanting in the uterine wall.
If the concept of a "genetically distinct human life" is a part of one's arsenal of arguments, failure to oppose Plan B is ENTIRELY inconsistent with opposition to later-term pregnancy termination by other means.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:18 pm to Dr Hawkenbush
quote:Bravo.
If I as a very well educated Physician don't know when LIFE begins, I refuse to be told when LIFE begins by a bunch of people whose last exposure to any science, let alone any biological science, was giggling through Sex Ed in 6th Grade!!!
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:26 pm to AggieHank86
I agree mostly...but it is easier to rationalize that there is probably not a fertilized egg to prevent from attaching. what are the odds?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:29 pm to mouton
It becomes life at conception.
That said I'm "pro choice". I hate that term so I'm using quotation marks.
There is no right to terminate a life of another human being IMO. However, it does make sense for our society to let these idiots terminate their offspring that will also become idiots.
Tax payer money saved.
That said I'm "pro choice". I hate that term so I'm using quotation marks.
There is no right to terminate a life of another human being IMO. However, it does make sense for our society to let these idiots terminate their offspring that will also become idiots.
Tax payer money saved.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 5:58 pm to hoojy
quote:Both "Pro Life" and "Pro Choice" are simplistic terms, developed by bright people to direct the views and opinions of simpletons.
That said I'm "pro choice". I hate that term so I'm using quotation marks.
One either supports abortion rights or opposes abortion rights. The language is clunkier, but it is more descriptive.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:08 pm to mouton
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For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being? by mouton
When it can feel pain? When it is viable outside the womb? Once it is born?
A fetus is always a human being in the context of your question.
Human beings have a unique dna (and yes... that dna is in the human fetus).
Are you asking when should human beings be treated like human beings? The logical answer is all of the time.
In my town, they were beginning reconstruction on a bridge. Under the bridge was a bird's nest with eggs. The entire construction project halted so the eggs could hatch and birds grow strong enough to leave the nest. The concept of an abortion is that the fetus and soon to be baby is inconvenient. Do you know how inconvenient it is to halt a major road project for 4-5 months? We do this by law for bird eggs. Go figure.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:29 pm to BamaAtl
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A 6-week old fetus cannot survive on its own under any circumstances.
So, we are going to keep changing the number based on the medical technology of the times? The age of “viability” has changed drastically over time. That is no way to determine when a fetus is human.
The only thing that will never change is the beginning of a new human is at conception.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 6:30 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:32 pm to hoojy
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It becomes life at conception. That said I'm "pro choice". I hate that term so I'm using quotation marks. There is no right to terminate a life of another human being IMO. However, it does make sense for our society to let these idiots terminate their offspring that will also become idiots. Tax payer money saved.
Upvote for honesty
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:36 pm to mouton
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When it can feel pain? When it is viable outside the womb? Once it is born?
At the same time you became viable. When the sperm enters the egg.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:38 pm to pizzatiger
How much was your abortion?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:40 pm to tigerskin
What if every time a baby is killed you just killed a great leader or someone that could cure cancer?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:42 pm to tigerskin
I believe that a woman should be able to receive an abortion for any reason during the first trimester, in cases off rape in the second, and in no case during the third except when the fetus will endanger the mother.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:43 pm to meansonny
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In my town, they were beginning reconstruction on a bridge. Under the bridge was a bird's nest with eggs. The entire construction project halted so the eggs could hatch and birds grow strong enough to leave the nest. The concept of an abortion is that the fetus and soon to be baby is inconvenient. Do you know how inconvenient it is to halt a major road project for 4-5 months? We do this by law for bird eggs. Go figure.
I was going to say I love to go to the wood duck and Carolina wren nests around my property and pull out the eggs and crush them because I don't really like the birds. I wouldn't certainly have been called a cold-hearted frick. I get your point about eggs. There is likely more sympathy for birds than a fetus.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 6:44 pm to Possumslayer
Because a million times over you're just killing a hood, barrio or trailer rat who will become nothing but a statistic.
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