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re: For those who are pro choice: At what point do you feel a fetus becomes a human being?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:13 pm to Huge Richard
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:13 pm to Huge Richard
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Lol. So forcing pregnancy will solve all of society’s ills huh?
Who’s out forcing people to get pregnant against their will?
FWIW, I’m ok with it till the point of heartbeat.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:14 pm to lpgreat1
Then what would dudes argue about on the Internet? No. Abortion is here to stay.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:15 pm to Masterag
My god. Forcing pregnancy.. as in not allowing the woman to terminate.
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:17 pm to Huge Richard
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Forcing pregnancy.. as in not allowing the woman to terminate.
So killing for convenience? If you are ok with this we are so far apart on this topic neither of us will convince the other to see their side.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:18 pm to Huge Richard
quote:Well, that's literally nonsense.
Forcing pregnancy.. as in not allowing the woman to terminate.
If I don't allow termination, then, by definition, you were already pregnant and, that means I didn't force the pregnancy.
Do better
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:20 pm to Huge Richard
quote:What type of cutoffs are restrictions to abortion do you agree with if any?
Huge Richard
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:21 pm to civiltiger07
Yah. But I’m for the status quo. You guys would be transforming society and it’s not as simple as banning abortion and being done with it. Forget thinking about it on an individual level. What would we have to do as a society if it was banned? That’s something pro lifers also have to answer.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:22 pm to Huge Richard
quote:Ahh...........the whole veiled "men forcing upon women" rhetoric.
Then what would dudes argue about on the Internet?
Except, ruh roh. Women and men are 1% point apart in wanting to completely ban abortion.
Women are a whole 3% points more likely to want abortion COMPLETELY legal in all cases.
Whoops. Talking point dead.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:22 pm to udtiger
quote:
No one deserves anything
oddly, i agree
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:24 pm to StrongSafety
quote:Ahh........so SS returned after starting a thread advocating the widespread sterilization of black men.
oddly, i agree
Chutzpah
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:24 pm to Huge Richard
quote:
What would we have to do as a society if it was banned?
How about being more responsible for starters?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:25 pm to jchamil
But actual plans. No bumper sticker quotes.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:27 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Nobody wants an abortion until they want an abortion
Except, ruh roh. Women and men are 1% point apart in wanting to completely ban abortion.
Women are a whole 3% points more likely to want abortion COMPLETELY legal in all cases.
Then some go on back to being "pro lifers"
This post was edited on 5/15/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:28 pm to Huge Richard
quote:We had to transform society after banning slavery too. And, it was fricking HARD! It took DECADES to even BEGIN to actually get it right. Arguably, it took more than a century.
Yah. But I’m for the status quo. You guys would be transforming society and it’s not as simple as banning abortion and being done with it. Forget thinking about it on an individual level. What would we have to do as a society if it was banned? That’s something pro lifers also have to answer.
You don't decide whether or not to do the right thing based on your level of discomfort with having to deal with the new paradigm.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:28 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:
Nobody wants an abortion until they want an abortion
Then some go on back to being "pro lifers"
That's fine and all. I'm merely pointing out that the "muh men imposing on women's bodies" rhetoric falls completely flat in the face of actual polling
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:29 pm to Huge Richard
quote:
But actual plans. No bumper sticker quotes.
That is the plan. Be more responsible. It's not complicated at all
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:30 pm to ShortyRob
This is all hypothetical. Banning abortion now would ultimately bring back abortion later. So it’s just going to remain a philosophical debate and some tweaks to state laws here and there.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:32 pm to Huge Richard
quote:Perhaps. Alas, this has zero bearing whatsoever on whether it's right or wrong.
This is all hypothetical. Banning abortion now would ultimately bring back abortion later.
quote:Frankly, I suspect that one day, it will a debate rendered entirely moot by technology.
So it’s just going to remain a philosophical debate and some tweaks to state laws here and there.
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:33 pm to mouton
quote:yes.
Are you saying a mother should have the option of having an abortion all the way up going into labor if she so chooses?
Posted on 5/15/19 at 3:34 pm to ShortyRob
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Frankly, I suspect that one day, it will a debate rendered entirely moot by technology.
That is pretty interesting. Do you mean you think the tech will be able to 100% prevent pregnancy or detect a fertilized egg ASAP to where it can be aborted?
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