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For those wanting to live in a post-Christian America, how are you enjoying it

Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:34 am
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:34 am
Christian Headlines


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Bible reading and usage are at an all-time low in the United States, according to new data from the American Bible Society’s State of the Bible Survey. The data also shows that despite the discouraging news about Bible usage, half of Americans believe the Bible includes “everything a person needs to know to live a meaningful life.” The 2022 survey, released Wednesday, registered a 10-percentage point decline in the percentage of Bible users among American adults, from 49 percent in 2021 to 39 percent in 2022. It was the lowest percentage ever recorded in the survey, which began in 2011. American Bible Society defines a Bible user as someone who reads, listens to or prays with the Bible on their own, outside of a church service at least three to four times a year. ( that’s a very low bar) One in five Americans left the “Bible engaged” category in the past year, according to the survey. “Nearly 26 million Americans reduced or stopped their interaction with Scripture in the past year,” the report said. The report’s data was so jarring that researchers began asking: Is there something wrong with the survey? But after double-checking the math and the samples, they determined that “something real” had changed in America.



Whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap.
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 7:39 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32224 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:37 am to
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American Bible Society defines a Bible user as someone who reads, listens to or prays with the Bible on their own, outside of a church service at least three to four times a year.
Are you kidding me?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57280 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:37 am to
American Christianity has been a joke for decades

Mega church ME ME ME
easy believism - sign a card to be saved passer bys
neo-Gnostic woke southern Baptists
works only biblically ignorant Catholics
Worship the American flag fundamentalists

I could go on and on

We are just now feeling the real world effects
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 7:44 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:42 am to
There are smart atheist who recognize that modern Christianity is one of the more benign religions and that it generally promotes civilization.

They also would rather see it remain as the dominant religion because they know if it disappeared, that the vacuum would be replaced by something that will likely be destructive.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57280 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:43 am to
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They also would rather see it remain as the dominant religion because they know if it disappeared, that the vacuum would be replaced by something that will likely be destructive.


The religion of unchecked secular liberalism eventually ends in genocide 100% of the time
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21546 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:45 am to
A large chunk of the secular community are against a lot of the social changes occurring.

This is more of America suffering because it's a victim of it's own prosperity than anything spiritual. Think of the poem "strong people create good times..."
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:45 am to
I mean, my life is good.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20111 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:46 am to
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works only biblically ignorant Catholics


I’ll grant you that most Catholics are excessively ignorant about the Bible, but “works only” is a ridiculous Protestant canard. Protestants are the original “fake news-ers”.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57280 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:51 am to
I’m not attacking every single Christian - I am attacking the incorrect ideas that flow from each major branch - and I am in one of them

The fact there are many many many Catholics who live thinking they can get to heaven if they are “good enough” is a testament to that

Just like there are many many many Baptists who are going to happily live self-deceived thinking they are going to heaven because they made a “decision” when they were 12 and nothing else
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20111 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:52 am to
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There are smart atheist who recognize that modern Christianity is one of the more benign religions and that it generally promotes civilization.


The smart theists recognize that the smart atheists are better than the dumb ones, but they are still ignorant to the fact that they operate on a belief system just like the theists, and their suppositions are nested in a fundamentally Judeo-Christian morality. They sit in the shade of a remnant Christian tree and think that the weather is just fine.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57889 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:52 am to
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easy believism


Just another phrase to describe lost
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20111 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:53 am to
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I’m not attacking every single Christian - I am attacking the incorrect ideas that flow from each major branch - and I am in one of them

The fact there are many many many Catholics who live thinking they can get to heaven if they are “good enough” is a testament to that

Just like there are many many many Baptists who are going to happily live self-deceived thinking they are going to heaven because they made a “decision” when they were 12 and nothing else


I’ll agree to that.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57889 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:53 am to
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This is more of America suffering because it's a victim of it's own prosperity than anything spiritual. Think of the poem "strong people create good times..."


I don’t agree. I think our desire to have more stuff and live a soft life is rooted in a lack of spirituality
This post was edited on 4/7/22 at 7:56 am
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21546 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:56 am to
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The smart theists recognize that the smart atheists are better than the dumb ones, but they are still ignorant to the fact that they operate on a belief system just like the theists, and their suppositions are nested in a fundamentally Judeo-Christian morality. They sit in the shade of a remnant Christian tree and think that the weather is just fine.


More like Christian's trying to convince everyone they're the only group with a tree despite the other historical non-Christian superpowers creating and maintaining societies just fine.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21546 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 7:59 am to
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I don’t agree. I think our desire to have more stuff and live a soft life is rooted in a lack of spirituality


I'm not talking about consumerism. I'm talking about the societal trend of highly successful parents not teaching their children the values and principles that got them there.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20111 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:00 am to
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I mean, my life is good.


What is your purpose?

I suppose by “life is good” you mean that you have managed to avoid suffering and have satiated your earthly desires.

At a minimum, you still have death to look forward to, and probably some suffering, and likely some moral conflict, and the knowledge that you ma have hurt others, or failed to do your best, or you may have to deal with injustice or even malice from others, or maybe injustices and malice you will commit upon strangers, or family or yourself.

What then?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20111 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:02 am to
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More like Christian's trying to convince everyone they're the only group with a tree despite the other historical non-Christian superpowers creating and maintaining societies just fine.


Relativism. Smells like fear.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21546 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:04 am to
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Relativism. Smells like fear.


No, just pointing out the suggestion that only Christian values can create a stable and prosperous county is completely ignorant of history.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101347 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:07 am to
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No, just pointing out the suggestion that only Christian values can create a stable and prosperous county is completely ignorant of history.


Seems perhaps that “suggestion” was only seen through whatever lens you were looking through.

Of course, we are all by and large products of western civilization.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20202 posts
Posted on 4/7/22 at 8:07 am to
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They also would rather see it remain as the dominant religion because they know if it disappeared, that the vacuum would be replaced by something that will likely be destructive


Like the Aloha Snackbars that would toss their asses off from rooftops because they didn’t express belief in Allah or were gay?
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