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re: Flynn 302 released

Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by tigersandsaints
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:50 pm to

Harry Cherry
@TheHarryCherry
·
1h
I've now been told by three people familiar with the situation that
@GenFlynn
's new lawyers are Joe DiGenova and wife Victoria Toensing.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:50 pm to
quote:

Did you really expect the declass of this 302 transcript to incriminate itself?

Why would you think anyone would?
My response was to Gumbo, who was excited to see the 302

Don't act like this shite hasn't been discussed ad nauseum by people like you
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Please try again so I can see where Juicey said he was a libertarian.
Please find it

I so want to be in that elite club
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:52 pm to
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

The transition team was meeting with all sorts of countries Ambo's and leadership to try and get a head start on foreign policy relations.


That's a whole lot of Logan Act violations.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
31411 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Can Flynn change his plea?
quote:

I heard he can withdraw his plea


Under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 32(e), a defendant does not have an absolute right to withdraw his or her 2 guilty plea prior to sentencing. Instead, a court will permit a defendant to withdraw a guilty plea prior to sentencing only "if the defendant shows any fair and just reason."' To determine whether a defendant has met this standard, courts have developed a four-part balancing test: "(1) whether defendant established a fair and just reason to withdraw his plea; (2) whether defendant asserts his legal innocence of the charge; (3) the length of time between the guilty plea and the motion to withdraw; and (4) if the defendant established a fair and just reason for withdrawal, whether the government would be prejudiced."
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19161 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:01 pm to
quote:


That's a whole lot of Logan Act violations.



You should read it again. The reason they were reaching out to the Trump team is because many of those countries had zero relationship with the Obama administration. That alone should tell you how bad the Obama foreign policy was because we essentially had none for 8 years
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:03 pm to
One of the not known breaking news LIVE on twitter places is being retweeted by CTH as

BREAKING-Rudy Giuliani to step down from role as Trump's lawyer

Can anyone confirm or deny?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

The transition team was meeting with all sorts of countries Ambo's and leadership to try and get a head start on foreign policy relations.


quote:

That's a whole lot of Logan Act violations.


Meeting? Talking to? Establishing relationships?


That is NOT a Logan Act violation. INTERFERING with policy, etc. is
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

My response was to Gumbo, who was excited to see the 302

Don't act like this shite hasn't been discussed ad nauseum by people like you

So again, what was the purpose of your first post then?

You realized we DID learn some good stuff from this thing, right?

I listed several of them out already...

1. The crazy timeframe between the actual interview and when the 302 is dated.

2. The fact the FBI interviewers clearly had advanced knowledge of at least 3 of Flynn's private conversations.

3. So why would they ask him to discuss what was discussed in those conversations if they already knew precisely what was discussed, and nothing was nefarious?

4. The only logical answer is they were attempting a perjury trap.

5. How did they get approval to spy on Flynn phone calls and why?


So no, these things don't show the FBI admitting to a bunch of illegal shite, of course not, but this thing does tell us quite a lot about how this was a railroad job.

So why shouldn't Gumbo be excited about it? I know I am. Several things I thought I knew were finally just confirmed.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:05 pm to
Ya'll ignore Juicey he is delighting in fricking with people in this thread.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:06 pm to
I am hearing Rudy stuff is fake news....

Bueller Bueller Bueller anybody?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124547 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

That's a whole lot of Logan Act violations.
ETA: Ooops, I missed the "/sarcasm"
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43084 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:07 pm to
We need someone with a spine as FBI director - I don't trust Wray at all - never did. Thought his confirmation hearing was cringeworthy
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Harry Cherry
@TheHarryCherry
·
1h
I've now been told by three people familiar with the situation that
@GenFlynn
's new lawyers are Joe DiGenova and wife Victoria Toensing.
if true but I need it from more than Harry Cherry, I need it from Penelope Pitstop Cherry.

Thanks for posting...
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16834 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

2. The fact the FBI interviewers clearly had advanced knowledge of at least 3 of Flynn's private conversations.


Wasn’t it Andy that was quoted as saying, “first we frick Flynn, then we frick Trump?”

Perjury trap is exactly what this was. It was NOT an investigation.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111776 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:10 pm to
The only point in engaging Juice is to remind him he’s a dishonest piece of shite.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147992 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

But the move also comes amid a yawning disconnect between the approach adopted by the well-respected legal team Flynn has used since the start of the Russia probe and the combative rhetoric from many of his friends and family members, who have accused Mueller’s team of deception and argued that Flynn was tricked into pleading guilty. Some have urged Flynn to seek to withdraw his plea.

Jack Posobiec, a pro-Trump provocateur and who has joined forces with the Flynn family in calling for the retired Army lieutenant general’s exoneration and pardon, wrote Thursday on Twitter he was told the new Flynn lawyer is “very high profile and appears on TV regularly.” The post added to the speculation over several familiar faces from the Russia probe, including Trump personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, retired Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz and the husband-wife duo of Victoria Toensing and Joe diGenova, informal Trump advisers who nearly joined the president’s legal team last spring.

In a text message to POLITICO, Giuliani said he was not Flynn’s new lawyer. Dershowitz replied that he’s not representing Flynn. DiGenova in an email wrote, “We are not at liberty to discuss.”

politico.com/
This post was edited on 6/6/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124547 posts
Posted on 6/6/19 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Perjury trap is exactly what this was. It was NOT an investigation.
100%

That is not even disputable.
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