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re: Floyd did not die from asphyxiation
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
Well then clearly putting a knee on his next for nearly 10 minutes and even after he’s unconscious and bystanders are begging for them to check his pulse was the wrong option to then choose.
in that report... the deceased intentionally fell down several times... apparently in an attempt to resist arrest (remember... this is the report detailing why Chauvin's being charged... not something from the defense)
so now all of a sudden he can't breath while standing?
sounds like another ruse to resist arrest
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Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:39 pm to Caplewood
quote:
Can you really trust what a con artist says?
Can you really trust what the police say?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:40 pm to roadGator
Title of the thread is incorrect.
It’s specifically (probably) not traumatic asphyxiation. Where you compress the thorax until someone is dead.
Asphyxia is still completely on the table. And likely from the coroner’s statement.
It’s specifically (probably) not traumatic asphyxiation. Where you compress the thorax until someone is dead.
Asphyxia is still completely on the table. And likely from the coroner’s statement.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:40 pm to TigerCruise
I just know that the looters are going to return the shite that they stole when they hear the news.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:40 pm to auggie
quote:Well he was charged with 3rd degree murder, which includes:
I would not be able to find intent on the part of the officer.
quote:So it seeks the charge is appropriate for what you described.
Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:40 pm to Smeg
quote:
So he had difficulty breathing before being restrained
Are you saying 3 guys decided to compress the chest of and squeeze the neck of a man already having breathing trouble, then Remained there as he begged for life and finally died and went limp? Almost sounds intentional.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:41 pm to rt3
quote:
sounds like another ruse to resist arrest
Dying is quite the finishing touch to that clever ruse.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:41 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
Can you really trust what the police say?
Can you really trust what anyone says?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:41 pm to TigerCruise
Ive been saying , the dude looked high on something . Probably had a heart attack .
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm to Dick Leverage
Is there body cam video? I want to see what happened before they put him to the ground.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm to Choctaw
quote:Obviously.
the cop killed the fricking guy.
Heart attack caused by panic caused by restricted oxygen.
Same thing that killed Reggie White, sans the murderous fricking thug cop.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm to TigerCruise
It doesn't matter. Hypoxia can cause a heart attack and other problems. If he took drugs that affected his respiratory function, the knee on his neck could have exacerbated the hypoxia. If the knee on his neck was a contributing factor in his eventual death, the ex-officer is still guilty of murder.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm to Smeg
quote:
You don't want to believe what the evidence shows.
You want to evidence to show what you already believe.
The fricking report says the knee contributed to his death
quote:
The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.
The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53
seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a
subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.
Defendant is in custody.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:42 pm to Caplewood
quote:
Can you really trust what a con artist says? This is akin to saying the cuffs are too tight.
Truth. They always use this. Hell the cops are usually out of breath as well.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:43 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:
Are you saying 3 guys decided to compress the chest of and squeeze the neck of a man already having breathing trouble, then Remained there as he begged for life and finally died and went limp? Almost sounds intentional.
Let's put it plainly. If the cause of death is determined to essentially be a heart attack, and not a form of asphyxiation, will you still blame the police?
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:43 pm to Smeg
quote:
I don't believe this this true.
I don’t care if you believe it’s true.
You want Chauvin to be innocent?
I find it highly unlikely that a person dies in police custody complaining of not being able to breathe and that they just happened to have confounding medical events at exactly that moment while they are in the vulnerable position of prone restraint that we know can kill people.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:44 pm to rt3
quote:Fine his actions has the consequence of death. And the cop’s actions had a consequence of a murder charge.
sounds like another ruse to resist arrest
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:44 pm to Ingeniero
quote:
the knee contributed
A contribution is not a direct cause.
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:45 pm to westide
Hes def guilty . When they had him in cuffs the shite was over . Sit him up or put him in the car . You dont have your knee to his neck for 6+ minutes .
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 5/29/20 at 3:46 pm to Smeg
quote:Since the cop’s actions, as started in the report, contributed to his death, then why wouldn’t the cop bare the blame for his direct contribution? That’s why he was charged with murder afterall.
If the cause of death is determined to essentially be a heart attack, and not a form of asphyxiation, will you still blame the police?
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