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re: Floyd did not die from asphyxiation

Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:36 pm to
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146397 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:36 pm to
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He should get general population.

I'm totally here for a not guilty verdict or a sentence of probation only
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
13193 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:37 pm to
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Medical examiner said they found "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation" in George Floyd's death


Well,

There you go but, don't let the militant rioting stop or the verbose comments stop coming forth from the established "peanut gallery."
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:37 pm to
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IF he's convicted of 2nd degree manslaughter... I don't even think he gets the max of 10 years in prison... and when all things are considered... he could be free in < 3 years


His charges are virtually the same as the MPD officer who killed the Australian woman. I’m guessing he will get the same amount of time, more or less. Certainly not less than 5 years. The report itself already shows the other officers made suggestions that Chauvin ignored. That doesn’t seem to bode well.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25890 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:38 pm to
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I'm totally here for a not guilty verdict or a sentence of probation only


Yeah, he’ll just let him out around 7 tonite. Or drop him off at the end of his driveway.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19856 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:38 pm to
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Possibly a brain aneurysm. Just as likely.


Especially if he had ever abused any form of the Colombian Booger Sugar!
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
12330 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:39 pm to
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This report is going to piss off so many virtuous white people.


But at least it started a conversation right.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:39 pm to
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point being... if tMob thinks this officer is going to spend 20-life in prison... it ain't happening
Except you have police chiefs, officers, prominent defense attorneys, and people of the world in general that believes this was not just manslaughter but straight up murder, so I think there is a good chance you’ll find 12 people from the city it happened to agree with that.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20520 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:39 pm to
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Probably correct. Oh, and add also considering that the Unconscious Neck hold is an approved Minneapolis PD restraint procedure:


Yeah I'm thinking this shite show is only getting started. Granted the trial will take a while to get here, so maybe other news stories will shadow it.

We have a police officer (seemingly) using accepted use of neck restraint on a suspect who may have died of personal health issues?

I think what will lead to the police officer being guilty is that Floyd was restrained already when the officer placed his knee on his neck. I haven't watched the whole video though, so I can't claim anything there. If the jury decides that the officer was right in assisting the physical restraint of Floyd and used an accepted form of restraint PLUS the medical report that he wasn't killed directly by the knee, then we might see the guy walk.

EDIT - Just watched the video. Never mind to what I just typed. There's no way anyone can watch that video and not think it's straight up murder. Guy was passed out and restrained and the officers were made aware that he was unconscious. Guy kept his knee on him and was - as the guy videoing said - a fricking bum.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 5:25 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146397 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:39 pm to
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Yeah, he’ll just let him out around 7 tonite. Or drop him off at the end of his driveway.

well now that sounds premeditated on your point... 1st degree murder... 20-life
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37150 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:39 pm to
How is it murder if he didn’t cause the death?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24127 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Except you have police chiefs, officers, prominent defense attorneys, and people of the world in general that believes this was not just manslaughter but straight up murder, so I think there is a good chance you’ll find 12 people from the city it happened to agree with that.


Yeah loons are everywhere.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Does this show the cop was trying to help Floyd since floyd was complaining about being claustrophobic?


By putting a boot to his neck immediately after?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21374 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Except you have police chiefs, officers, prominent defense attorneys, and people of the world in general that believes this was not just manslaughter but straight up murder, so I think there is a good chance you’ll find 12 people from the city it happened to agree with that.


People's opinions aren't good enough for a conviction. It only matters what can be proven beyond doubt.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21374 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:41 pm to
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By putting a boot to his neck immediately after?


Was he not flailing around violently after getting back out of the car?
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25890 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:41 pm to
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well now that sounds premeditated on your point... 1st degree murder... 20-life


How do? Just letting him be free. Cops don’t have to render aid or protect people, the care law is clear on that.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12500 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:42 pm to
Including all over this board
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:42 pm to
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How is it murder if he didn’t cause the death?
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Combines effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.
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The defendant had his knee on Mr. Floyd’s neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds in total. Two minutes and 53 seconds of this was after Mr. Floyd was non-responsive. Police are trained that this type of restraint with a subject in a prone position is inherently dangerous.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:42 pm to
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Medical examiner said they found "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation" in George Floyd's death


This changes my opinion slightly.

The cop's knee was on Floyd's neck for 7+ minutes while he was restrained. frick that cop.
This post was edited on 5/29/20 at 4:44 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
30957 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:43 pm to
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Except you have police chiefs, officers, prominent defense attorneys, and people of the world in general that believes this was not just manslaughter but straight up murder, so I think there is a good chance you’ll find 12 people from the city it happened to agree with that.


This trial won't be happening in Minnesota probably, or any time soon.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20323 posts
Posted on 5/29/20 at 4:43 pm to
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a non-direct cause of death

You must given you credit for coming up with that tidbit. What I'd like you to explain his how the you know the knee on his neck "contributed" to his death. For instance, how much force was being applied? Do you know? The coroner found "no trauma" to he neck, throat, airway. So please give us the basis for your conclusion.
This post was edited on 5/30/20 at 11:52 am
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