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re: Florida Governor DeSantis announces strong legislation to combat the disorderly garbage
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:31 am to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:31 am to BottomlandBrew
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I wholeheartedly agree they are wrong. I also believe the other side is wrong.
So everybody's wrong but you?
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:31 am to Mike da Tigah
Fantastic. The out of state protesters will move along to easier targets. This is how you handle paid protesters.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:31 am to BottomlandBrew
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I wholeheartedly agree they are wrong. I also believe the other side is wrong. That's why nothing gets any better because everyone wants to blame someone and not look at the larger picture.
No, both sides are not wrong.
The loot/burn/riot side believes there is an epidemic of blacks being murdered by racist police. The statistics prove they are wrong.
The law and order side looks at the numbers and says "Hmmm, it looks like police officers are statistically more likely to use deadly force against whites than blacks. In fact, only 9 unarmed black men were killed by police in 2019 in a country of 330 million. It seems that the BLM narrative is unfounded."
So no, both sides are not wrong. You certainly are, though.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:32 am to BottomlandBrew
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I wholeheartedly agree they are wrong. I also believe the other side is wrong. That's why nothing gets any better because everyone wants to blame someone and not look at the larger picture.
Do you not realize that all this does is ramp up the penalties for VIOLENT RIOTING and calls to defund police; neither of which inhibit these "talks" that both sides need to have (in your opinion)?
I'd argue that removing the violence from the situation would be more likely to bring those peaceful discussions around. Instead, when there's a faction of one side rioting, looting, burning, injuring and killing, NOTHING gets accomplished other than trying to protect people and property from that violence.
In other words, remove the violence from the equation and allow the peaceful protests. That's FAR more likely to lead to actual discussion and change being made.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:32 am to Mike da Tigah
5 cucks downvoted
I wish I could see who upvotes and downvotes on this site
I wish I could see who upvotes and downvotes on this site
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:33 am to BottomlandBrew
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That's why nothing gets any better because everyone wants to blame someone and not look at the larger picture.
The larger picture is that the black culture needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt. Hip hop culture is a stain on humanity. They need to focus on academics more than athletics and loudly denounce gang violence.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:39 am to BottomlandBrew
Boottomboy,when one side starts trying to intimidate through terrorism, the discussion is over.
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
frick off.
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
frick off.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:39 am to BottomlandBrew
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His solutions do nothing to fix the problems and only create more problems, but yeah, keep believing that Side A is correct and Side B is wrong.
Go through this list. How does this not dissuade the black lives matter and ANTIFA crowd from creating mini-portlands all over his state? Pandering is speaking words to gain favor to one segment of society, without actually doing anything. Nothing in here is pandering. It is ALL ACTIONABLE ITEMS. Please, prove me wrong.
* Criminal penalties for disorderly assemblies, using RICO to hold those who fund it accountable.
* Felonies for incapacitating roadways
* Prohibition and penalties on toppling monuments and public property
* Prohibition on harassing people
* Mandatory minimum jail sentence of 6 months for anyone in anyway involved in throwing stuff at officers, with enhanced penalties applied to assault and battery
* No bail
* Extra penalties for those from out of state involved in disorderly conduct
* Not allowing communities to defund the police. If they defund the police, the state defunds them
* The state will waive sovereign immunity and allow victims to sue communities who fail to protect them and property.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:42 am to BottomlandBrew
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You do that by taking away their voting rights for blocking a street.
It's a deterrent from blocking streets. Do you consider prosecution for arson, burglary, assault, murder, disenfranchising potential voters all because they commit a simple little crime?
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It's nothing but kicking the hornet's nest and then being surprised when the hornets sting you.
It's discouraging UNLAWFUL behavior.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:45 am to BottomlandBrew
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That's why nothing gets any better because everyone wants to blame someone and not look at the larger picture.
Enlighten us
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:45 am to BottomlandBrew
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What we need is rational debate
You want to debate ANTIFA/BLM? You think they are destroying these liberal cities because there isn't a discussion? Notice the cities where runaway anarchy is taking place. What is the common theme? The local government is not arresting/prosecuting those that break laws. DeSantis is ensuring that element doesn't commit these acts in Florida and be protected by the same city council members. He's ensuring his state survives. Portland, Seattle, and NYC are forever changed. FOREVER. You think Portland and Seattle is going to attract business again when the city council, mayor, and Governor can't even guarantee their businesses won't be destroyed and they have no recourse?
You want to "have a conversation" with irrational people. They don't want a conversation. They are petulant children. Do you ever rationalize with a petulant child?
This post was edited on 9/23/20 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/23/20 at 8:48 am to SOKAL
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Boottomboy,when one side starts trying to intimidate through terrorism, the discussion is over.
We do not negotiate with terrorists.
Agreed. When they start burning businesses, looting, murdering, and protesting on people's private property, I would rather see them all shot dead than listen to what they have to say.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:09 am to BottomlandBrew
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taking away their voting rights for blocking a street
Here's an idea. Don't block the street. Is that too much to ask.
Peaceful protests are fine. Don't hold up someone else's life illegally and you'll be fine. Hell, file a permit and burn an American flag if you must.
Just don't interfere in the lives of other people because you are mad it wasn't her turn or because you fell for a false narrative that blacks are "being hunted in the street".
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:10 am to BottomlandBrew
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THIS IS WHAT REACTIONARY PANDERING BULL shite LEADERSHIP LOOKS LIKE FOLKS
Fixed it for you. His solutions do nothing to fix the problems and only create more problems, but yeah, keep believing that Side A is correct and Side B is wrong.
No...i think he got it right. Still have the absolute right to protest. But only in a civil manner. You endanger other people ( blocking roads, attack people, or....dont protect people that you are sworn to protect) you pay the price for your actions. Toddler behavior belongs solely to toddlers...not 27yr olds
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:11 am to BottomlandBrew
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His solutions do nothing to fix the problems
Problem: insane people blocking streets interrupting the lives of other innocent people and commerce.
Solution: Arrest them
Problem solved
Posted on 9/23/20 at 9:15 am to CocomoLSU
Yes, it could be a slippery slope, but the intention is to make it so that you don’t have a Seattle or Portland in Florida which is refusing to enforce the laws and actively hindering the population trying to protect themselves.
Posted on 9/23/20 at 10:00 am to BobABooey
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Agree except for the one about defunding the police. That one is too vague and ignores the reality of the budgeting process. If there is wasteful or unnecessary spending in a police department, shouldn’t you be able to reduce the PD budget and reallocate that money to the fire department, for example, or just reduce taxes?
He addresses this at 20:40 in the video. Says they know budgeting is tough and requires cuts. But singling out like New York and Los Angeles will not be allowed.
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