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Flock flailing in the wind
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:14 pm
Pressure is mounting, which state will be the first to outlaw these things?
Putting audit controls in place and reducing storage from 30 days to 7 days (well unless the city/county decides it wants more).
Dude is full of shite in his reasoning for the updates.
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Flock CEO Garrett Langley was motivated to update Flock’s safety controls after realizing just how many people lack trust in law enforcement.
“I’ve spent a lot of time in the last two years talking to individuals, and a lot of them have said, ‘Well, I don’t trust the police,’ and I go, ‘Why?’ ‘Oh, well, the police have abused their power so many times,’” Langley said in an interview ahead of the announcement. “What’s changed for me is realizing that we have a responsibility, maybe an obligation even, to the communities we serve to set the standard.”
Putting audit controls in place and reducing storage from 30 days to 7 days (well unless the city/county decides it wants more).
Dude is full of shite in his reasoning for the updates.
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Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:15 pm to Lsut81
No blue state will ever outlaw them.
And many red states won't. We're not as in control of the political process as we like to think. The PACs and lobbies run shite.
And many red states won't. We're not as in control of the political process as we like to think. The PACs and lobbies run shite.
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:18 pm to Lsut81
How have abusers of the system been punished?
I think the public would appreciate these cops catching serious charges for harassment, stalking, violating right, abuse of power, etc.
I think the public would appreciate these cops catching serious charges for harassment, stalking, violating right, abuse of power, etc.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:19 pm to Lsut81
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after realizing just how many people lack trust in law enforcement.
Correction its "after realizing just how many people commit crime and how many are too stupid to realize it"
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:19 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:21 pm to SallysHuman
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How have abusers of the system been punished?
At least here in the Houston area, they resigned, and the department said that is good enough and no policy changes will be coming. Pasadena, TX for this incident. We have 4 others in 4 separate suburbs going through the same thing at the moment.
This post was edited on 8/13/26 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:22 pm to theballguy
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And many red states won't. We're not as in control of the political process as we like to think. The PACs and lobbies run shite.
I'd bet Texas and Florida do.... Texas especially since they outlawed red light cameras.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:25 pm to Lsut81
Several local towns in NW Arkansas has discontinued using Flock cameras.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:27 pm to theballguy
quote:Alabama definitely won't. Our next governor is all in on data centers and flock cameras
And many red states won't.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:27 pm to Lsut81
I mean Flock is serving a two pronged process its helping police catch the bad guys and it also getting crooked cops fired who abuse it. Shouldn't that be what we want? To get rid of all the bad apples in policing? I bet there have been over 50 officers fired here in Georgia alone this year over misuse/abuse of Flock privileges.
Help me understand this better.
Help me understand this better.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:32 pm to theballguy
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No blue state will ever outlaw them.
I bet at least as many red states support them. Here in NC the legislature is one vote shy of a GOP super majority and they are alllllll for them.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:34 pm to ronricks
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Help me understand this better.
Catching a cop requires a pattern of abuse to discover their actions. How many people and how many times did the officer violate a person's rights before that pattern emerged? Id rather they not have the opportunity. And a few more caught criminals isn't worth the trade off to me.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:38 pm to MSMHater
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Id rather they not have the opportunity. And a few more caught criminals isn't worth the trade off to me.
Make this make sense. I'd rather we get rid of the crooked cops and catch more criminals. It is a win-win to anyone that has an IQ above 75.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:40 pm to SundayFunday
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Correction its "after realizing just how many people commit crime and how many are too stupid to realize it"
I'd bet my left nut you tell people if they have nothing to hide they have nothing to worry about when it comes to 4th amendment violations.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:41 pm to ronricks
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I bet there have been over 50 officers fired here in Georgia alone this year over misuse/abuse of Flock privileges.
Yep, every one of them have been caught.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:42 pm to Lsut81
Cameras have been used for decades to monitor goings on and barely a thought given to it (beyond tin foil hat types).
Now, all of the sudden (yes, I know), Big Brother is all o’er the place.
“Flock!” is the new “Data Center!”
Looks like we can use this more and more broadly all the time.
Now, all of the sudden (yes, I know), Big Brother is all o’er the place.
“Flock!” is the new “Data Center!”
Looks like we can use this more and more broadly all the time.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:42 pm to Lsut81
The short term data is the most concerning. It all can be used by tyrants to punish their political enemies.
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:43 pm to MSMHater
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Catching a cop requires a pattern of abuse to discover their actions. How many people and how many times did the officer violate a person's rights before that pattern emerged?
This is exactly my issue with flock cameras. I understand how useful and vital they could be in certain situations like amber alerts, but the potential for abuse is just too damn high. Just like FISA
Posted on 8/13/26 at 2:46 pm to ronricks
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I mean Flock is serving a two pronged process its helping police catch the bad guys and it also getting crooked cops fired who abuse it. Shouldn't that be what we want? To get rid of all the bad apples in policing? I bet there have been over 50 officers fired here in Georgia alone this year over misuse/abuse of Flock privileges.
Help me understand this better.
I don't know how to explain you love dragnet style continuous surveillance that totally isn't being used in nefarious ways at all. yeah the government would totally never use those, especially if they try and pull a covid type event again and tell everybody to stay home. yeah they would totally never ever do that.
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