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re: "flock" camera outrage, is it really ngos fighting deportations?

Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:26 pm to
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If the globalist bankers decided to move capital out of the USA


:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20888 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:28 pm to

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It’s not the current “AI” that’s the danger. It is just a tool that is reaching its functional limits. The real danger is quantum computing.


You really are that stupid, its a tool (kind of like you) that can be used to help us achieve quantum computing.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20888 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:40 pm to
Simple math in the corporate world. If you can borrow money at a lower rate than you believe you can make it......borrow it and use someone else's money.

Alphabet issued bonds at 6.98% their shares have increased the last five years on average at 30% thats 23% upside......they should issue more bonds
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20888 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:42 pm to
Which means more illegals are being nabbed and hence the ngos increasing their rhetoric.

I think many are confusing the chicken with the egg here.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
530 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 5:42 pm to
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The key distinction is whether the surveillance is justified and proportionate, not whether it is applied equally.

Equal treatment and justified treatment are two separate questions.



Yeah, that's called a warrant.

Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
20888 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 6:00 pm to


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You really are a dumbass sometimes, but I like you.


Ya learnin pardna. Now explain to me why they cut down all the live oaks in your area to "enhance" it. Real disappointed the last time I was up there.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117233 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:01 pm to
Interesting theory.
Posted by RandRules
Member since Mar 2025
584 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:44 pm to
You must be one of these policemen using flock cameras to track your ex
Posted by CountryVolFan
Knoxville, TN
Member since Dec 2008
3109 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:49 pm to
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On public roads? What law prevents people from watching you in public?


In Tenneseee the Stalking and Aggravated Stalking statutes would prevent someone from doing this.

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Free speech, free press, and free association disagree with your assertions. It is exactly the reason why you have a license plate


A license plate doesn’t create a database that constantly tracks your movements. Again, the closest example in current use is GPS which always requires a warrant.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
17197 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 7:54 pm to
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Yeah, that's called a warrant.

A warrant isn’t really the dividing line I’m talking about. If a Flock camera is simply recording license plates and vehicles as they pass through a public area, I don’t think a warrant should be necessary for every photograph. If the government is using cameras to peer into someone’s home or otherwise monitor activity in a place where there’s a reasonable expectation of privacy, that’s where the Fourth Amendment analysis becomes very different.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 8/22/26 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by Crimsonmarine
Member since Jun 2020
201 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:20 pm to
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Which means more illegals are being nabbed and hence the ngos increasing their rhetoric.


I don't know about the NGO rhetoric, but ICE apprehensions have gone steadily down since peaking in January this year, despite the over 100% increase in flock cameras deployment during the same time period...
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
530 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:52 pm to
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A warrant isn’t really the dividing line I’m talking about. If a Flock camera is simply recording license plates and vehicles as they pass through a public area, I don’t think a warrant should be necessary for every photograph. If the government is using cameras to peer into someone’s home or otherwise monitor activity in a place where there’s a reasonable expectation of privacy, that’s where the Fourth Amendment analysis becomes very different.


By doing that on every car you are assuming every person is guilty until proven innocent.

And the proof of that is that every one that seems to be in favor tries to justify it by claiming it will catch more criminals.

AKA if you treat people as guilty until proven innocent, you will catch more criminals.

If you set up roadblocks everywhere and make people show their papers, you will catch more criminals. That is what these are equivalent too.

But this time it's different!

A warrant as you previously said requires a justification for the check. It's the entire purpose of the 4th amendment. That you cannot treat people as being guilty until proven innocent, you need to at least establish a reason for the warrant.

Monitoring a specific building or whatever for security is a little more understandable than monitoring the entire population everywhere.

Furthermore, it's possible that some of these cases that are using flock could eventually get thrown out due to 4th amendment violations as well. Similar to a cop pulling someone over without a reason. They'll have to be challenged, but it's not a weak case depending on the role of flock.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
530 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 11:54 pm to
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I don't know about the NGO rhetoric, but ICE apprehensions have gone steadily down since peaking in January this year, despite the over 100% increase in flock cameras deployment during the same time period...


Probably because license plates don't change just because an illegal gets into the car to indicate it.

Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
11519 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 12:01 am to
For someone so concerned about data collection, it’s interesting you would use the internet, where literally all of your data is collected, sold, and sometimes hacked.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
530 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:14 am to
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For someone so concerned about data collection, it’s interesting you would use the internet, where literally all of your data is collected, sold, and sometimes hacked.


I buy and sell information on the internet.

I'm not the government.

I'm also required by law to get consent from the user to do so.
This post was edited on 8/23/26 at 1:29 am
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49872 posts
Posted on 8/23/26 at 1:54 am to
Is that you Peter? How have you been? How is Satan and all his demons? I haven’t talked to them in a while. Oh well best of luck with your antichrist scheme. ??
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