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re: few things don't pass the smell test about the crash
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:26 pm to Mandtgr47
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:26 pm to Mandtgr47
I watched a video that claimed to have the voice recording from ATC. The controller asked the helicopter crew if they “had a visual on the CRJ.” That’s it. The controller didn’t clarify by stating “incoming.” There was another outgoing flight that the crew misidentified as the CRJ.
Not sure if this is true, but if it is, then this points to failures by the military, the helo crew, and ATC.
Not sure if this is true, but if it is, then this points to failures by the military, the helo crew, and ATC.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:26 pm to carguymatt
Not releasing the name is the weird part to me. Several dozens of people are dead... and one of the ones who may be indirectly or directly responsible for the accident... is left unnamed, because her family requested her name to not be released?
That one family supersedes all those other families? The other families who may want to know who the frick was all on that helicopter that collided with the airplane and took their loved ones away?
That one family supersedes all those other families? The other families who may want to know who the frick was all on that helicopter that collided with the airplane and took their loved ones away?
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:39 pm to carguymatt
Reminds me of the cargo ship that steered into the Francis Scott Key bridge. I wasn't buying that was an accident and I'm not buying this.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:49 pm to Penrod
quote:As a pilot if you call “in sight” with visual separation then it’s on you as the pilot.
The transponder recordings show the helo at 200 feet, then popping up to 300’ right before impact. But the actual videos sure look like the helo descends to strike the jet. If the transponder recordings are right then ATC had very little time to notice, and they would not necessarily have been looking because the pilot said he had visual contact.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 7:50 pm to 1BIGTigerFan
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not releasing the third name operating the helicopter.
Start here.
The parents asked the name not be released.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:14 pm to carguymatt
Had anybody mentioned the fact these helicopters can be operated completely remotely up to 300 miles away? Hacked/sabotaged possibly?
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:16 pm to Plx1776
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Not releasing the name is the weird part to me. Several dozens of people are dead... and one of the ones who may be indirectly or directly responsible for the accident... is left unnamed, because her family requested her name to not be released?
I have a theory...
Maybe DJT and Pete are... Busy...
Tracking down others...
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:24 pm to nealnan8
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The parents asked the name not be released.
Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:24 pm to carguymatt
I think she did it on purpose mass homicide / suicide likely to protest or in solidarity with that other trans helo pilot in her unit who is fixing to get kicked out per the recent EO banning trannies from military service.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/28/trump-orders-pentagon-policy-saying-transgender-troops-are-not-consistent-military-ideals.html
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2025/01/28/trump-orders-pentagon-policy-saying-transgender-troops-are-not-consistent-military-ideals.html
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:56 pm to Mandtgr47
One ex chopper pilot said a 4th person in the Blackhawk would have probably prevented the crash. I feel sorry for the air traffic controller who was trying to do two jobs. Blame Biden and DEI and the idiot who was the ex Sec of Transportation.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:58 pm to Goforit
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One ex chopper pilot said a 4th person in the Blackhawk would
I heard something similar today. There was supposed to be a 4th person on the BH who job included looking out the window for other aircraft. Not sure what happened to them but obviously they were missed.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:00 pm to Plx1776
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That one family supersedes all those other families? The other families who may want to know who the frick was all on that helicopter that collided with the airplane and took their loved ones away?
This story just pisses me off the more I think about it. There was an entire family of 4 on that flight that were coming back from a skating competition. Lots of kids were on that flight as well.
That Blackhawk pilot needs to be identified and called out for being an incompetent fricktard who singlehandedly destroyed families.
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Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:04 pm to Kjnstkmn
nah not on purpose. BUT the army is likely embarressd that a person on an action plan f-cked up
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:44 pm to Diamondawg
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Family requested that they not. Not sure how enforcable that can be
When is the last time the military didn't release the name of a dead soldier because the family didn't want them to? Never, not in my 73 years anyway.
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:59 pm to Homesick Tiger
Too bad the DEI dipshits in the FAA couldn’t figure this out before 67 people had to die
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/31/25 at 10:43 pm to carguymatt
Because it was intentional. I had a thread whacked because i said it was on purpose, several said i was an idiot. Whose the idiot now 
Posted on 1/31/25 at 11:01 pm to carguymatt
Even if the helo had been at 200ft and jet at 400, thats only 200ft. A football field is 300ft. Thats not a lot of distance when talking in air.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:24 am to OU Guy
200 ft difference is sufficient but it’s not meant to be tested very often either. Helos are supposed to go behind a plane in that situation. Not directly under or in front of.
Helos are supposed to yield to just about every other object in the sky. The order is something like hot air ballon, glider, blimp, plane and then helo.
Helos are supposed to yield to just about every other object in the sky. The order is something like hot air ballon, glider, blimp, plane and then helo.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:42 am to RDOtiger
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The controller didn’t clarify by stating “incoming.
The controller initially told them the flight was approaching to land at runway 33 and asked if they had visual confirmation and they said they did.
Then after the helicopter makes a turn towards the CRJ and warnings start sounding, the controller asks them again if they have visual, and again they say they do.
The version you heard starts at the second time they asked. I had the same thought you did until I heard the full playback.
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:00 am to carguymatt
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2. ATC had one person doing 2 jobs b/c a co-worker left for the night
Combining positions is not uncommon.
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