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re: FEMA is confiscating supplies?

Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:24 am to
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:24 am to
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You trying to be facetious? There are numerous posts on X about these events.


lol, you believe shite people post on X. Conservatives are as bad as libtards, if not worse at pushing lies and getting their moronic base to believe it

Posted by ghoast
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:24 am to
I can’t speak for FEMA in NC, but I handed out the first bags of ice in Hattiesburg by a volunteer group after Katrina while GW said FEMA was there.
Fact.
FEMA did not show up for two weeks… even though Camp Shelby, 10 miles down 49, was a staging area for resources going to NO and the Coast… which needed it obviously, but the fact is they were not where the WH said they were.
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:33 am to
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yet you are here defending it


Quote it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466895 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:38 am to
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Quote it.


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Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:38 am to
Can I see FEMA being told to seize supplies so they can be distributed in an organized way to where they’re most needed….and them some FEMA agents puffing up with their authori-tay?

Can I see FEMA wanted to control airspace with all of those flights?

Absolutely

Then, can I see them being so incompetent that they don’t have anyone in charge or capable in actually coordinating all of this and sitting round waiting for somebody to tell them what to do?

Absolutely
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:38 am to
Would elon musk be considered credible? Says FEMA wont let others help.

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This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 9:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:40 am to
Elon is getting information from others. He's not a source

It's very likely there are issues but these issues are most likely due to local incompetence, not FEMA

Then there is a mixture of dishonesty and the Telephone Game spread via social media, amplifying the effects of both
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:42 am to
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FEMA is confiscating supplies?


Well, to be fair, FEMA needs those supplies to give to all the Third World fricking animals that they’re flying in from all over the fricking third world. Priorities and all.
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9316 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:44 am to
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Elon is getting information from others. He's not a source



Pot meet kettle


You have no idea where the man gets his info, but go ahead and act like you do
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
35109 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:46 am to
Elon gets his info from Slow, I bet.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2282 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:46 am to
Elon says is reported by space x engineers trying to deliver supplies. So yes, is a second hand source. But is that second hand source credible?
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5329 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:46 am to
Fact-checking 5 misleading claims about Helene relief efforts

Social media rumors mislead North Carolinians about what will happen to affected properties, who is allowed to help in crisis, and how politicians have responded.

WRAL News
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466895 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:48 am to
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You have no idea where the man gets his info

That's irrelevant to the conversation. THAT is the source, not Elon

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72275 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:48 am to
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Yes, but most (maybe all?) NG units aren't comprehensive and if I remember correctly they're mainly combat arms as opposed to large logistics. You can get boots on the ground from them but they're not a smaller version of a military division with all the associated organic units (medical, logistics, etc).


Everything you’ve said here is complete bullshite. National Guard units are indeed comprehensive, having both combat arms maneuver units with logistics and support units. The National Guard currently comprises of 8 full infantry divisions:

28th ID
29th ID
34th ID
35th ID
36th ID
38th ID
40th ID
42nd ID

In additional to this there are numerous independent brigades, both combat arms and combat support.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:48 am to
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It's very likely there are issues but these issues are most likely due to local incompetence, not FEMA


Oh, FEMA is capable of plenty of incompetence without local help.

The fact is that sometimes "issues" are just the reality of the catastrophe. This isn't something that's gamed out and people rehearse for it, and a local's view of the response is very much in the "3 blind men and an elephant" realm.

I have a good friend I'm in contact with in downtown Asheville. It would be asinine of me to share what he sees and pretend that's the reality for someone in Chimney Rock.
Posted by Chinese Bandit Boy
Member since Jun 2021
904 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:49 am to
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I had equipment rented out to FEMA


You must be one of the insiders who make money playing ball with FEMA.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
466895 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:49 am to
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Elon says is reported by space x engineers trying to deliver supplies. So yes, is a second hand source. But is that second hand source credible?

I addressed this

If there are shenanigans, it's likely local LEO, not FEMA

Like the story about the helicopter rescue dad threatened. That was caller "FEMA" in the echo chamber but had nothing to do with it.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26944 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:50 am to
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National Guard units are indeed comprehensive, having both combat arms maneuver units with logistics and support units.


Across the US, yes. Not for an individual state. The discussion was about what the NC Governor could do with state resources.

Dumbass.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5329 posts
Posted on 10/5/24 at 9:50 am to
Tennessee mayor on FEMA attacks post-Helene: ‘Quit spreading those rumors’

A mayor in Tennessee joined other local officials Friday to denounce skepticism and rumors that have swirled around the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) response to the devastation in the southeastern U.S. from Hurricane Helene.

Mayor Glenn Jacobs (R), who serves Knox County, Tenn., signaled in a post online that the attacks on the administration could make recovery efforts more difficult.

“To my knowledge, FEMA, TEMA, nor anyone else is confiscating supplies,” Jacobs, a former professional wrestler, wrote Friday in a post on social platform X. “Please quit spreading those rumors as they are counterproductive to response efforts.”

“If everyone could maybe please put aside the hate for a bit and pitch in to help, that would be great,” he added.

The message comes days after allegations were floated that FEMA does not have enough money to provide disaster assistance, is stealing cash donations from survivors and has turned away volunteers.

The Hill
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