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re: Feds TAPPED the phones of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and intercepted call with White House

Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:50 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36239 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 3:50 pm to
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You have no basis to claim that was their motive when they requested a wiretap of Cohen. You also have no way to claim it was Trump on the intercepted call from the White House. So this is a preposterous statement to make.

You don't need a wiretap to investigate bank fraud and money laundering. That is a serious waste of time and resources. You think it's a coincidence Trump has been under investigation for a year and all of a sudden his lawyer's office is tapped and then raided? The Feds give mobsters more consideration than they gave Cohen. First it was Russian collusion, then it was obstruction and now it's a campaign finance issue.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:02 pm to
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You don't need a wiretap to investigate bank fraud and money laundering.


Okay? And you know that's all they're investigating Cohen for how?

Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:02 pm to
So is Trump even a suspected of anything?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36239 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Okay? And you know that's all they're investigating Cohen for how? 

This is from CNN:
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Michael Cohen, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, has been "under criminal investigation" for months in New York because of his business dealings, the Justice Department said Friday.

The basis for the criminal investigation is Cohen's business dealings. We're talking about the S.D.N.Y. here. This is the prime target for terrorism in the world. This is the home of La Cosa Nostra, the Russian Mafia, a distribution point for Latin drug cartels and home to scores of street gangs engaged in RICO activities.

These are the cases you expect to see wiretaps, because you have people who are extremely insulated from day-to-day criminality and there's no other way to obtain similar information.

Wiretaps are expensive in terms of time and manpower. To think that a lawyer who has 3 clients is worthy of the resources and time required to effectuate a long-term wiretap is to feign logic. If Cohen didn't represent Donald Trump and he was under investigation, they would have subpoenaed documents and conducted an interview like they would for almost all other business crime investigations.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9910 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:15 pm to
MSNBC now reporting Cohen's calls are being logged ("pen register"), not a title III wiretap.
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19821 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:20 pm to
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NBC has now retracted its "scoop" about a wiretap. A pen register is much easier to get and much less intrusive than a wiretap. No actual phone call content is listened to. Basically it's a real-time log of calls.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 4:37 pm to
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MSNBC now reporting Cohen's calls are being logged ("pen register"), not a title III wiretap.

So they are fake news.

And I don't believe them
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46487 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 5:21 pm to
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Trump is one disgusting hunk of flesh. Everything connected to him is filthy and despicable.



Yes. Filthy, filthy girl...
Posted by Jyrdis
TD Premium Member Level III
Member since Aug 2015
12812 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 5:25 pm to
Damn! That was a factstorm complete with factnados.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 5:35 pm to
I’m thinking the people leaking these things may actually be white hats. They see the corruption and lies behind closed doors and they are bringing them to the world to see by leaking.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124188 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 5:51 pm to
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Since when did the Republican Party consider valid search warrants a "DISGRACE!" ?

Or are you stupid enough to think that they did this without a warrant?
Apparently you were stupid enough to think that they did this even with a warrant. Now we know they didn't. We also know the lengths you'd go to support deep state sedition, as long as it did not target libs
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1610 posts
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:22 pm to
a warrant based on a bunch of lies laundered to FBI by the Democrats?!?!

As we’ve learned over the last couple of years, just bc a warrant was issued, doesn’t mean it was “lawfully obtained”— at this point, it’s more likely than not the warrant was issued on false information. And they’ve prolly been listening in on him since the election.
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