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re: Fed’s Kashkari: Rising bond yields, falling dollar mean investors are moving away from US

Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:50 am to
Do to a trade deficit? That much trade deficit changes in a a short time that bond market responds this quickly? Products take longer to warehouse & ship let alone slack off than the raised tariffs have been in place. Take additional considerations that there is a trade imbalance every single year with all these places. I suspect a deficit in quality reporting while a imbalance of bonds being sold by particular companies that start with the letter China
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:50 am to
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Between 2021 and 2025, the U.S. dollar's purchasing power has decreased by approximately 15.3%.


How does that compare to the worlds' currencies?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98247 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:51 am to
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Been an interesting week for the cut now crowd SDV. You got the cpi/ppi you needed but rates are not cooperating.


Wow i wonder why

They need to cut at least 1% this year

quote:

Fed's Kashkari says inflation will be temporary, workers will return

By Reuters

June 25, 2021




This post was edited on 4/11/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:57 am to
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Just curious, do you nut jobs spend all day searching for news that could be portrayed as negative?


Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:58 am to
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Between 2021 and 2025, the U.S. dollar's purchasing power has decreased by approximately 15.3%.


Relatively to the 2021 dollar, yes. Thats factual. Currency strength or weakness is relative to other currencies though.
Posted by Sizzle_DAWG
Sanford Stadium
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:58 am to
Because emotional women only respond with knee jerk actions/words during short term situations.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:58 am to
People dont want to invest in a country that elected a Sociopath, thats shocking.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 10:59 am to
He didn’t even mention carry trades. Usually when you’re attempting to tell a story about why markets are doing xyz, it’s completely wrong.

Now, I will admit the current account is at its lowest since 2022 but I think that reinforces a dollar shortage/collateral issue abroad but indirect bids were extremely high last week during the auctions so it seems like he’s just completely wrong.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:00 am to
China selling or not buying treasuries in a vacuum is a problem though. Even if we blame them and/or Japan solely, they’re a decent chunk of Treasury demand and we’re definitely not going to be issuing fewer bonds in the foreseeable future. Demand is lowered and/or supply is increased and you can end up with a refinancing spiral.

We’re still far from that though.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:02 am to
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ond yields is specifically talking about Investing in US Treasury securities. We’ve learned that Japan recently sold a bunch of them. This movement indicates the belief that the US Treasury is no longer being viewed as the #1 safest investment.


That makes sense. Article is vague in referring to U.S. investment.

I don’t think Japan and China are selling bonds because they view it as not a safe investment. They’re doing it as a retaliatory move to the tariffs we imposed. The article is being disingenuous implying the sell off means treasury bonds are bad investments rather than acknowledging it was done as a move to put pressure on Trump to back off on tariffs short term
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:10 am to
They haven’t been net buyers since like 2012
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:11 am to
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Bond yields is specifically talking about Investing in US Treasury securities. We’ve learned that Japan recently sold a bunch of them.

This movement indicates the belief that the US Treasury is no longer being viewed as the #1 safest investment.


We were also told that Japan dumped the securities in retaliation to the tariffs. That seems to be a more plausible explanation than the idea that they would sell them just because the US, while still an incredibly safe investment, slipped from #1. The US is the wealthiest and freeest country in the world. There's simply no way we could have fallen below #3 virtually overnight.

It would be the equivalent of panic selling stocks, and I think Japan is too stoic for that.
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
12383 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:28 am to
Yeah, I mostly agree. Not that the US is not safe, it’s more of an indicator of Japan’s unease about Trump‘s volatility.
China would be retaliatory.

The article was vague. I just happened to hear an interview where that exact same language was being used.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19356 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 11:30 am to
They hold less than 1 trillion of 36 trillion of this debt, Americans hold 30 trillion. I suspect when Doge is all said and done alot of funny things will come to light with this. Selling on a large scale is definitely hurting America without a doubt but unloading across the board could set off a chain of events that cannot be reversed till total destruction of all economies that depend on a trade. In that case living the country life or on a island somewhere could be completely desirable
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 12:09 pm to
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Fed’s Kashkari: Rising bond yields, falling dollar mean investors are moving away from US

What has he got to say about China devaluing their own currency? I'm told it makes their goods more likely to be imported

Why is that the exact opposite for the US?




Because Fed, and playing politics. Thats why. This are the same group that never raised the rate once, during the black guys 2 terms. Things that make you say hmmmmmm
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 4/11/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 12:17 pm to
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Its at the same level it was in December.

certain of Trump NON-supporters find disaster on common and natural shifts

they support howling about marxism and I suppose, as they are told, to attack goodness for the USA

people will see through their charade as we see through it here

even Bibi is crouching by the news reporting?

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75186 posts
Posted on 4/11/25 at 12:19 pm to
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You cannot trust CNBC.

I'm interested to know who we can trust, because it seems as if that list is short. I guess we could wait for one of the "influencer" hacks to pick up on this article and pass the info off as their own? This place loves that, even when the original source is a journalist working for an unapproved outlet they all eat it up. Maybe we should get a pinned thread of vetted and approved sources.
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