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re: Federal judge stops administration from terminating certain international students' status

Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:19 pm to
LOL

Did the WH just announce this 2 hours ago? How does a lawyer file, it get accepted, before a judge, and ruled on within 90 min or less?


fricking clownshow we have become.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
1571 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:20 pm to
How many miles?
Posted by minister of truth
Somewhere new for 6-12 months
Member since May 2022
1801 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:21 pm to
Yep. Pretty obvious. And then scream during midterm elections that Trump & team didn’t get anything accomplished the 1st 2 years
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
49762 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:22 pm to
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F-1 student visas


What rights do foreign holders of student visas have that the government cannot impede or revoke?

Is there established law on the issue?

Or are we making new law from the bench?
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
17725 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:27 pm to
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But they seem to have a huge problem with 60 people fleeing genocide I'm SA. Odd that eh?

InB4 some judge orders their return to South Africa.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
6406 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:29 pm to
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The left has circumvented the will of the people, the electoral college and popular vote to wage full lawfare against a duly elected President. Time for some fricking heads to roll.... and fast.


It’s way past ridiculous. If opposing party judges wanted they can shut down the executive branch. Hopefully all these Trump judges remember this
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
18265 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:31 pm to
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quote:
U.S. District Judge Jeffrey White, who sits on the U.S. district court in Oakland, California


Ruling on a case on Harvard... which is in Cambridge Massachusetts.

That's 5484 miles apart. Its literally on the other coast


Exactly. SCOTUS recently ruled district judges ruling can only be applied to their jurisdiction.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14842 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:32 pm to
Votes
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66649 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:36 pm to
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Did the WH just announce this 2 hours ago? How does a lawyer file, it get accepted, before a judge, and ruled on

No, this has nothing to do with that, and it involves more than just Harvard students.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17593 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:38 pm to
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It really is a convoluted way for the Fed/ICE to try to go about doing this. They terminated the SEVIS (Student and Exchange Visitor Information System) records of thousands of students across the country, which essentially revoked their visas.
ehhhh, both sides (fricking lawyers) are playing games with this. Mainly ICE. If SEVIS is terminated the status is NOT automatically changed. However, what ICE has stated is that if your SEVIS is terminated you are ineligible for the benefits of that status.

Not to mention SEVIS is supposed to be an 'indicator' of status, NOT part of the status decision.
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ince then, the Fed/ICE have stated in court that they have no criminal charges or proceedings against any of these students and none of them are deemed a threat to national security,
Immigration status for F-1 (and J-1) are not subject to judicial review. That is just the way it is.

However, SEVIS IS subject to judicial review.

Sounds like ICE overplayed their hand or tried to get too fancy by using SEVIS for a backdoor when they did not need the back door.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 5:39 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66649 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 5:40 pm to
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If SEVIS is terminated the status is NOT automatically changed. However, what ICE has stated is that if your SEVIS is terminated you are ineligible for the benefits of that status.

And they've used that as reason to terminate visas.

Honestly, this seems like one of the few legitimate immigration type cases that is working it's way through the system.
This post was edited on 5/22/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96928 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 6:26 pm to
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District Courts can ignore the Supreme Court.


Which means the president can ignore both.


Which, sadly, is a dangerous slippery slope but this is what happens when people as a whole stop respecting our institutions and those in positions of power within our system abuse it and go far outside of their restricted lanes
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
25553 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:45 pm to
I didn't know exact mileage. that's just a random arse number


Quick Google search says t's 3090 miles to be exact. So a judge is telling a school 3000 miles away what it can and cannot do. It's absurd
Posted by hogwildinhouston
Member since Oct 2011
724 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 7:54 pm to
I do believe the minute it was announced I called this in an earlier thread.

Like clockwork.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22286 posts
Posted on 5/22/25 at 8:11 pm to
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The left has circumvented the will of the people, the electoral college and popular vote to wage full lawfare against a duly elected President.


Until someone, anyone makes these bought and paid for judges pay for what they're doing, it's just not going to stop. The Trump administration can either stop listening to them, or obey the rulings, but it has to be all or none.
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