re: Federal judge blocks Louisiana law that requires classrooms to display Ten Commandments

Good. They can’t read them anyway

If there is a serious desire to have the 10 Commandments in the classroom I would do Chill that they're being amendment to the constitution to be voted on by the people and if the property percentages are reached then it would be mandatory and not unconstitutional

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Nor was it to have Christ appointed as King Savior of the US in an Amendment, you loon

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Correct, sadly. That's my personal belief.

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Nor that public buildings be forced to put up specific religious texts.

Clearly

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I think the 10 commandments issue in Louisiana is a response law.

"Forced" prayer, Bible reading, hymn and psalm singing, and using biblical/christian texts like McGuffy Readers as primers for moral teaching were common in public schools from the 1800's until the early 1900's.

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Nor should any conservative support this.

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If you want to conserve principles and even culture to an extent from the early years of our founding as a nation, then supporting Christian morality being taught in public schools would be good and "conservative". I understand why forcing schools to display the 10 commandments might rub you the wrong way, though.

I'll say that I'm a Christian conservative, not a secular conservative, so my conservative values may look a little different than others.

Judge DeGravelles is obviously correct in blocking this law by following the constitution he swore to uphold.

The 10 commandments don’t belong in public school classrooms. They can be in a textbook of religious material with other religions covered as well. They can’t be displayed as a set of rules to be followed. That’s blatantly unconstitutional. Refer to the first amendment.

On the merits of its morality…

1. Don’t worship the other gods, but just Yahweh. This has nothing to do with morality in that this doesn’t affect how humans treat other humans.

2. Don’t make idols for the other gods to inhabit. Don’t make graven images. This is not a concern of human morality, and most christians don’t practice this anyway with their Jesus pendants and Mary statues and amulets of the saints and such. This harms no one.

3. Don’t swear on Yahweh’s name that you did or didn’t do something. As long as one is truthful, saying “if this isn’t true may Yahweh strike me dead” harms no one. This one doesn’t touch morality.

4. Remember the sabbath day. Only fringe Christian sects follow this. Either way, this doesn’t concern morality either, but is just utter nonsense. Whoops almost forgot it actually does concern morality - it says your slaves are not to work on the sabbath. It could have said “no human is to own another person as a slave” but sadly it doesn’t.

5. Honor your father and mother. Hey we finally have a commandment that has some sense of morality (if the father and mother are kind and caring and not meth heads). But what is the penalty for a child not honoring his father? Death by stoning.

6. Don’t murder. Seems logical and moral, except the Bible repeatedly commands murder and genocide even if innocent babies and animals. Anyone arguing “Oh but it’s not murder because it was justice and they deserved it.” is horseshite and should be ashamed.

7. Don’t commit adultery. Only applicable if you are a married woman, or if you are a man sleeping with someone else’s wife. If you are a man, you may rape any unmarried woman as long as you can pay the bride price, and you may have as many wives and concubines as you can support and afford. Brilliant.

8. Don’t steal (from other Yahwists). Unless it is from another people group with different customs and beliefs. If the other people are Egyptians or Moabites or Philistines or Amorites or Midianites or other Canaanite tribes you can still all their shite and kill them all.

9. Don’t lie. Unless you are lying to help Israel (Rahab the prostitute of the wall of Jericho) or you are a prophet lying to Israelite kings because Yahweh put a lying spirit in your mouth.

10. Don’t covet your neighbor’s stuff including his slaves. Yay communism!


How about this?

Treat others the way you would want to be treated - with respect and dignity, and be kind and helpful.

Bam. Better commandment than the creator of the universe.

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Where does the 1st amendment say that the government must be entirely secular?

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Here. Bolded and underlined for you.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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And the 14th amendment makes the 1st applicable to state and local governments as interpreted by Supreme Court precedent.

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The founding fathers didn't act as if that were the case.

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Oh sure, it’s not like any of them came here to settle in a land free of religious persecution from the likes of the Anglican Church, the Calvinists, and the Spanish Inquisition. The quakers, the pilgrims, and the puritans and so forth welcomed the state meddling in their religion. Not.

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Seperation of church and state and all of that jazz.

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Doesn't mean there can't be any religious texts in a government building. It means the government won't force the adoption of a particular religion.

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We use to say the pledge of allegiance every morning

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Pledging to the flag is idolatry, which the 10 commandments say we shouldn't do.

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At the end of the day the history of this nation is based on Christian values. No other religion

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Sure. Obviously you have to be a Christian to live here or visit here. There will be no blasphemy, the penalty of which is death. We certainly don’t have anything in our laws that state that the government shall make no law establishing any religion.

We kill people for being gay, don’t we?

We don’t let anyone charge interest on a loan, right?

Our justice system is set up to punish others for the transgression on a single person.

Democratic Republic. Oh yeah that it Christian too, and certainly not rooted in Ancient Greece and Rome. This nation’s government took nothing from the works of Socrates and Plato.

Seriously, how can you state the founding of this nation was on Christian values? Maybe I’m missing something, so please educate me.

About the only Christian value I can think of that was integral with the early history of the nation is that slavery was justified by the Bible. “Jesus” even tells slaves to obey their earthly masters.

This is an absolute waste of time and resources by Landry. He was elected to represent all citizens not just Christians. Our Constitution is clear on separation of church and state for good reason. I would much prefer he concentrate on ways to keep us of every list at 50th or 49th.