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re: Fed Appeals Court rules most Trump tariffs illegal, next step Supreme Court
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/29/25 at 8:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Here you are again defending tLeft 
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Posted on 8/29/25 at 10:33 pm to onepiecemayne
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Because he is ok with Trump being above the law
There is so much dumb on this board sometimes its amazing.
Posted on 8/29/25 at 11:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
Can you explain this? These are just some of the laws that apply in levying a tariff that congress gave to the president (that are still in effect)
Major Statutes Delegating Tariff Authority
Law Purpose Presidential Powers
Trade Expansion Act of 1962 – Section 232 National security Allows the President to impose tariffs if imports threaten national security, following an investigation by the Department of Commerce.
Trade Act of 1974 – Section 201 Safeguard measures Enables temporary tariffs or quotas if increased imports seriously injure domestic industries, based on findings by the U.S. International Trade Commission.
Trade Act of 1974 – Section 301 Unfair trade practices Authorizes the President to retaliate against foreign trade practices that violate trade agreements or are unjustifiable.
Trade Act of 1974 – Section 122 Balance of payments Permits the President to impose tariffs during balance-of-payments crises or national emergencies.
Tariff Act of 1930 – Section 338 Reciprocal treatment Allows the President to impose retaliatory tariffs if other countries discriminate against U.S. exports.
Seems rather interesting that the court only focused on more recent.
Major Statutes Delegating Tariff Authority
Law Purpose Presidential Powers
Trade Expansion Act of 1962 – Section 232 National security Allows the President to impose tariffs if imports threaten national security, following an investigation by the Department of Commerce.
Trade Act of 1974 – Section 201 Safeguard measures Enables temporary tariffs or quotas if increased imports seriously injure domestic industries, based on findings by the U.S. International Trade Commission.
Trade Act of 1974 – Section 301 Unfair trade practices Authorizes the President to retaliate against foreign trade practices that violate trade agreements or are unjustifiable.
Trade Act of 1974 – Section 122 Balance of payments Permits the President to impose tariffs during balance-of-payments crises or national emergencies.
Tariff Act of 1930 – Section 338 Reciprocal treatment Allows the President to impose retaliatory tariffs if other countries discriminate against U.S. exports.
Seems rather interesting that the court only focused on more recent.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 12:15 am to Padme
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You think the SCOTUS dares go head to head with Trump on this one? They won’t because Trump won’t abide and they would look weak.
Be careful what you wish for with a scotus ruling. If they decide that a presidents power is not limited by the constitution and a president has unlimited power what happens when there isn’t a GOP president? 2A is toothless under this scenario.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 12:17 am to Aubie Spr96
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Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution vests the power to lay and collect tariffs with Congress. The Founding Fathers intended for legislative oversight on taxation, tariffs, and related financial matters, viewing tariffs as strategic levers to be used with caution and prudence.
50+ people downvoted the idea that a POTUS should be somehow bound by the constitution. Wild.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 12:22 am to Motownsix
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50+ people downvoted the idea that a POTUS should be somehow bound by the constitution. Wild.
I notice this board especially our resident leftist were awfully quiet during the Biden Tariffs
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Joe Biden
In May 2024, the Biden administration doubled tariffs on solar cells imported from China and more than tripled tariffs on lithium-ion electric vehicle batteries imported from China.[78] The administration also raised tariffs on imports of Chinese steel, aluminum, and medical equipment.[78] The tariff increases will be phased in over a period of three years.[78]
Posted on 8/30/25 at 12:23 am to Padme
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They won’t because Trump won’t abide and they would look weak
Trump always abides. That is my main problem with him. I actually wish he would be more dictatorish.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 5:43 am to Prettyboy Floyd
It’s one thing to tariff China, the major superpower rival to US’s military and economic interests. It’s another thing to tariff every country in the world, including our closest allies
This post was edited on 8/30/25 at 6:19 am
Posted on 8/30/25 at 6:52 am to slackster
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:03 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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especially our resident leftist
VOR?
The free marketers criticized Biden's tariffs, too
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:04 am to SDVTiger
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Here you are again defending tLeft
Here you are again mis-stating argumetns
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:05 am to dafif
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Seems rather interesting that the court only focused on more recent.
Not really. Did Trump rely on any of the laws you cited?
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Defending the constitution is defending the left now
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:12 am to slackster
Our economy is healing and getting stronger. It looks like the courts would rather have it atrophy and die.
These judges are the enemy of the people.
These judges are the enemy of the people.
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Everything is a weird form of tribal partisanship to the tards
For most of the discussions about political ideology, SDV gets a pass because he has no political principles, just Trump loyalty. However, that doesn't permit him to lie about the political statements/stances/principles of others.
For most of the discussions about political ideology, SDV gets a pass because he has no political principles, just Trump loyalty. However, that doesn't permit him to lie about the political statements/stances/principles of others.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:14 am to TrueTiger
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Our economy is healing and getting stronger.
What metrics are you using to declare this?
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:15 am to TrueTiger
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It looks like the courts would rather have it atrophy and die.
do you think Presidents should be able to violate the law/Constitution if it "heals and makes the economy stronger"?
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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For most of the discussions about political ideology, SDV gets a pass because he has no political principles, just Trump loyalty. However, that doesn't permit him to lie about the political statements/stances/principles of others.
It's frustrating because without the loyalist tards we could actually have some productive conversations around here
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:19 am to SlowFlowPro
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Not really. Did Trump rely on any of the laws you cited?
My guess is that the attorneys probably did not and maybe Trump cited the wrong law but that still does not mean that what he did was not lawful or not allowed under the laws and power granted to him by Congress.
I am always thoroughly amazed at the positions you take. As an example, I believe you probably were in full support of obamacare as being constitutional and yet...all the way up to the supreme court until the very end it would not have been constitutional except as a tax...something never argued.
Posted on 8/30/25 at 7:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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do you think Presidents should be able to violate the law/Constitution if it "heals and makes the economy stronger"?
I think if the whole of the people demand it, it's going to happen no matter what the system blueprints say.
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