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re: FCC Commissioner says this SNL stunt is election interference
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:27 pm to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:27 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:
I don’t get why Kamala going on SNL is some big frickin deal that moves the needle
Because it is blatant affirmation that it is state-run TV and that the state will continue to keep its thumb on the scales of truth and justice. Those who accept it are tomorrow's enemies and cowards.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:27 pm to sparkinator
quote:
The law doesn’t distinguish this.
Just a point of clarification. There really isn’t a "law" on this. This concern FCC rules that were promulgated years ago. One dealt with the "Fairness Doctrine." That was abandoned in the Reagan administration. The second one deals with the Equal Time rule. there isn’t a whole hell of a lot of guidance on it. Further, the Supreme Court hasn’t ruled on it this issue -- at least that I could find. However, there is nothing that says it only applies to how much stations can charge to each candidate as one fricking idiot has assured all.
You can go back and read the string I linked above where Taxing Authority (F. Lee F*cking Moron) made a complete fricking arse of himself.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:35 pm to MMauler
Law, rule, it is implicit that a staton, promoter, etc on the public airwaves must provide equal opportunity for candidates. The fact that Kamala is allowed access and DJT isn’t a week before the election is totally against the rule of equal time is self evident
NBC should be disbanded and sold off at auction to the highest bidder. The governing body of NBC should be hung in the town square.
NBC should be disbanded and sold off at auction to the highest bidder. The governing body of NBC should be hung in the town square.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:39 pm to StansberryRules
Yet they have no problem imprisoning innocent people for a political statement.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:40 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:
2) I don’t get why Biden saying Trump supporters are garbage explicitly is some massive fricking deal when I figured that’s how they felt all along lol
You're probably correct. However, there is the possibility that it could move the needle with the so-called and self-professed “independent“ voters who allegedly haven’t made up their mind yet. These are the extremely low-information voters (and I don’t mean that as a pejorative) who just don’t follow politics like your average citizens.
According to some studies, these voters are extremely turned off by all the bickering, name-calling, and vitriol that goes on in politics. If the studies/pundits are correct, Joe Biden calling half of America “garbage,” could move the needle a little bit with these people.
This is why the fraudulent Mainstream Media always tries to gin up all the faux self-righteous indignation they can possibly muster by completely misstating and misconstruing everything that comes out of Donald Trump’s mouth. See, e.g., Trump’s comment about wanting Liz Cheney to have to go to the front lines if she’s going to vote to send other people's kids to the to the front line. They all knew exactly what Trump said and what he meant. But they saw it as a political opportunity to fraudulently report it in the hopes of influencing these low-information voters.
Also remember that many pundits still blame Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss on her referring to Trump supporters as being “Deplorables.“ These pundits believe that this comment really turned off those low-information voters.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 11:44 pm
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:43 pm to HubbaBubba
So lorn Michaels specifically said they wouldn't have either candidate on this election season, but on the last show before election day, they sneak Harris on without announcing in advance?
That's blantant
That's blantant
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:47 pm to MMauler
quote:*yawn* Unless Trump requested to be on the show, and was denied, it's not a violation.
No, no, no, no..... this can't be! According to the foremost expert in the history of the FCC., Election Law and Communication Law, TaxingAuthority, the Equal Time rule only concerns and applies to how much stations are allowed to charge each candidate for commercials.
LINK
quote:Tha't sthe FCC's bolded emphasis, not mine, btw.
Equal opportunities generally means providing comparable time and placement to opposing candidates; it does not require a station to provide opposing candidates with programs identical to the initiating candidate.
...
If a known personality appears on the air of a broadcast radio or TV show and has achieved the status of “legally qualified candidate,” this will ordinarily constitute a “use” for which the station will be required to entertain requests for Equal Opportunities by opposing legally qualified candidates for the same office. However, the station is not required to seek out opposing legally qualified candidates and offer them Equal Opportunities.
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:48 pm to fr33manator
quote:
So...what happened on SNL?
I have no fricking clue. I don’t watch that fricking garbage. When they decided to go completely off the leftist deep end of f*cking insanity, it became unfunny and I turned it off.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:51 pm to Taxing Authority
You're the one that said the Equal Time rule only applies to how much they can charge for ad time. According to you, this issue was completely within the purview of the fairness doctrine which was abandoned years ago during the Reagan administration. You gave us the whole fricking history.
And, as another poster mentioned above, Lorne Michaels said that he wasn’t going to have either candidate on but just miraculously changed his mind at the last second. Shouldn’t it be up to SNL to offer that time to Trump ON THE SAME BROADCAST and not require Trump to call asking for time?
Don't backtrack now that you’ve made to look like a complete fricking idiot.
Seriously, just admit that you were fricking wrong, you didn’t know what the frick you were talking about, and you were just talking out of your fricking arse. At least try to save yourself some fricking dignity, SERIOUSLY.
And, as another poster mentioned above, Lorne Michaels said that he wasn’t going to have either candidate on but just miraculously changed his mind at the last second. Shouldn’t it be up to SNL to offer that time to Trump ON THE SAME BROADCAST and not require Trump to call asking for time?
Don't backtrack now that you’ve made to look like a complete fricking idiot.
Seriously, just admit that you were fricking wrong, you didn’t know what the frick you were talking about, and you were just talking out of your fricking arse. At least try to save yourself some fricking dignity, SERIOUSLY.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:02 am
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:54 pm to MMauler
quote:
I have no fricking clue.
5 days before the election
They had Kamala Live, and Trump bashing.
Reba Bashing, Oklahoma Sucks...
Oh.. Just honorable broadcasting.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:21 am
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:55 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:
1) I don’t get why Kamala going on SNL is some big frickin deal that moves the needle
Well it was essentially a free nationwide broadcast of a campaign commercial
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:56 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:You really don't get why brandon saying Trump supporters are garbage just days after all of the MSM was crucifing Trump for a joke told by someone who is NOT TRUMP while giving a pass for someone who actually IS BRANDON calling at least 70+ million Americans garbage?
I don’t get why brandon saying Trump supporters are garbage explicitly is some massive fricking deal when I figured that’s how they felt all along lol
You really don't understand?
Really?
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:07 am to MMauler
quote:Indeed. And you should understand the term "use" in this context is advertising. If they gave Kamala time for $0 for political content, they'd have to offer it to Trump for he same price for political content. Was Trump denied thie same opportunity of a free appearance? Maybe he was, but I haven't seen any mention of that. As noted, there's no obligation for the broadcaster to seek them out for it.
You're the one that said the Equal Time rule only applies to how much they can charge for ad time.
Outside of advertising,or the specific new exemptions... affiliates have successfully argued, as they did in 2016, and 2020 that the time wasn't "use" for potlical purpose, and all they had to do is add a note to their local inspection file (that no one ever looks at) and that was it.
quote:Nope. I even specifically mentioned the difference in the post you quoted.
According to you, this issue was completely within the purview of the fairness doctrine which was abandoned years ago during the Reagan administration. You gave us the whole fricking history.
quote:Don't worry I won't.
Don't backtrack now
quote:I do hope you get the attention you're seeking.
At least try to save yourself some fricking dignity, SERIOUSLY.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:18 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:10 am to GusAU
I am saying it’s funny to me that if all the things said throughout the campaign that saying trump supporters are garbage is weirdly the thing that sends people over the edge. I just find it funny. I voted for trump but just my .02
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:18 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:15 am to Taxing Authority
Just keep digging yourself a new hole and keep making a complete fricking arse of yourself. You're a fricking idiot.
This is exactly what the frick I said the other day in the other string. But you assured us all that I was wrong and that the fairness doctrine is what would apply if it hadn’t been abandoned during the Reagan administration.
Seriously, just fricking apologize and admit you were fricking wrong.
quote:
Indeed. And you should understand the term "use" in this context is advertising. If they gave Kamala time for $0 for political content
This is exactly what the frick I said the other day in the other string. But you assured us all that I was wrong and that the fairness doctrine is what would apply if it hadn’t been abandoned during the Reagan administration.
Seriously, just fricking apologize and admit you were fricking wrong.
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:18 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:17 am to sparkinator
quote:
on the public airwaves must provide equal opportunity for candidates.
Is it limited to public airwaves? Is Joe Rogan obligated to invite Harris onto his podcast? He can't be faulted for her turning down the same terms that Trump agreed to (recording at JRE studios), but he has to extend the offer. Does CNN have to provide equal opportunity since they aren't using public airwaves?
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:18 am to MMauler
quote:Dunning-Krueger confirmed!
Just keep digging yourself a new hole and keep making a complete fricking arse of yourself. You're a fricking idiot.
quote:I'll repeat it again for you.
This is exactly what the frick I said the other day in the other string. But you assured us all that I was wrong and that the fairness doctrine is what would apply if it hadn’t been abandoned during the Reagan administration.
quote:So unless Trump requested time, and was denied, the rule does not apply. '
it does not require a station to provide opposing candidates with programs identical to the initiating candidate. ... the station is not required to seek out opposing legally qualified candidates and offer them Equal Opportunities.
quote:I am deeply sorry, that I can only eplain it to you, but I cannot understand it for you.
Seriously, just fricking apologize
This post was edited on 11/3/24 at 12:25 am
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:21 am to MMauler
I watched the skit. It was awful
Posted on 11/3/24 at 12:22 am to HubbaBubba
This is ridiculous. They didn't do anything to Nixon when he appeared on Laugh-In. They didn't do anything when Joe Garriagolla interviewed Gerald Ford as a guest host on the Merv Griffin show.
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