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re: FBI directed spy agencies to destroy intel on China plot to aid Joe Biden in 2020 election

Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:28 am to
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:28 am to
SFP denies all of this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480875 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:29 am to
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I don’t know. I also think it’s prudent to remember that Intel agencies get all sorts of information thrown at them, some true, some not true, and some intentionally not true. The process of sorting that and corroborating it is bound to be riddled with subjectivity, discretion, and error.


We saw this with the Epstein files being released bigly
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56350 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:33 am to
The Gaslight Media is telling their Democratic Socialist Drone audience that Trump revealed nothing of substance last night and even if he did it was his administration that was in control of securing the 2020 GE.

What the Gaslight Media is not sharing with their Drone audience is the recent intel dump's most important revelation.....and that is the intelligence agencies were not sharing their discovery of election interference and tampering with Trump and those in Trump's inner orbit.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
98066 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:36 am to
Funny why Trump has had so many arrested over the plot.

# of people paying the price:

0

Well done Mr President!

#WhinerInChief
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56350 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:39 am to
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Funny why Trump has had so many arrested over the plot.

# of people paying the price:

0

Well done Mr President!

#WhinerInChie


I don't think Trump can do the arresting.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7331 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:39 am to
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It's funny that following "The Most Important Oval Office Address Since Cuban Missile Crisis" the discussion immediately shifts to reports from 6 months ago.


So you're declaring this a nothingburger because it's about things that happened six months ago and longer?

I'd love to hear you do that argument in court.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8667 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:42 am to
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Sounds like they learned from the Russian hookers pissing on Trump fiasco


There's a little bit of a difference between physical evidence and a made up "pissing on hookers" story isn't there?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
25083 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 10:45 am to
Odd the order was to destroy the record instead of labeling it something according to retention policies.

Almost like they wanted to hide it
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
2140 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:13 am to
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No, the FBI under Deep State's control - you believe Wray supported Trump?


I believe that Wray was nominated to the position by Trump, so yeah probably so.


Had I known you are that dumb, I wouldn't have engaged you in discussion.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24543 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:13 am to
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It's funny that following "The Most Important Oval Office Address Since Cuban Missile Crisis" the discussion immediately shifts to reports from 6 months ago.

I think we can declare "The Most Important Oval Office Address Since Cuban Missile Crisis" a dud, now. RIP. July 16, 2026, 8:00 p.m (CST) - July 17, 2027, 9:47 a.m. (CST)


THAT'S the best ya got?? All the frickery exposed in the released documents and that's it????
It's only going to get worse as more documents are released .....
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140537 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:15 am to
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FBI directed spy agencies to destroy intel on China plot to aid Joe Biden in 2020 election
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It's funny
Is it?
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4910 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:23 am to
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The 20K fake licenses are not an allegation. The Hunter Biden texts are not an allegation. They are facts.


The fake licenses are real. The Hunter Biden texts are real. What is not established is that those licenses were part of a Chinese operation to generate fraudulent Biden ballots.

You can stack two facts beside an allegation, but that does not make the allegation a fact.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480875 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:53 am to
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So you're declaring this a nothingburger because it's about things that happened six months ago and longer?


That's not what I said. Perhaps you should go reread before you comment again
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480875 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 11:54 am to
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The fake licenses are real. The Hunter Biden texts are real. What is not established is that those licenses were part of a Chinese operation to generate fraudulent Biden ballots.

You can stack two facts beside an allegation, but that does not make the allegation a fact.


This is all the kernel of Truth fallacy

The existence of fake driver's licenses can be a fact without any sort of evidence for election or voter fraud. The election and voter fraud is the important part and it's dishonest to apply the kernel of Truth in an expansionary manner to claim it proves or is evidence of election fraud.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140537 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:42 pm to
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The fake licenses are real. The Hunter Biden texts are real. What is not established is ...
What is not established is why Chris Wray suppressed those facts in testimony.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
140537 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 12:46 pm to
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This is all the kernel of Truth fallacy
I'll see your "Kernel of Truth Fallacy" and raise it by one "Occam's Razor"
Posted by CrystalPreserves
Member since May 2019
4910 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:14 pm to
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What is not established is why Chris Wray suppressed those facts in testimony.


If Chris Wray mishandled or suppressed intelligence, investigate that. If he misled Congress, investigate that too.

But none of that establishes that the counterfeit licenses were part of a Chinese operation to produce fraudulent Biden ballots. The conduct of the FBI and the truth of the underlying allegation are two separate questions. You don’t prove one by arguing about the other.

Changing the subject isn’t the same thing as closing the case.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Member since Apr 2024
11760 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:30 pm to
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If Chris Wray mishandled or suppressed intelligence, investigate that. If he misled Congress, investigate that too.

But none of that establishes that the counterfeit licenses were part of a Chinese operation to produce fraudulent Biden ballots. The conduct of the FBI and the truth of the underlying allegation are two separate questions. You don’t prove one by arguing about the other.

Changing the subject isn’t the same thing as closing the case.


This is nothing but verbal distractions to distract.

I wonder what would have happened if Trump had directed the exact same operation.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49723 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:05 pm to
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count the number of cabinet members worth a damn under Trump on one hand.
How many thumbs do you need to count competent and effective Democrat cabinet members in the past decade??
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 2:06 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49723 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:13 pm to
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This is all the kernel of Truth fallacy

With election fraud in mind - why do you think the democrat party is so opposed to limiting access to the polls to American citizens only - and to have photographic proof on election day?

We do know that Democrats want millions and millions of poverty stricken aliens to be situated in the USA for us to support

any coincidence in those thoughts?
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