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re: Farewell Asa Hutchinson - defends puberty blockers, says military shouldn't secure border

Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13348 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:19 pm to
Been telling everyone Asa is an establishment POS for years. I've got a fresh, clean $5 bill that says at some point he invoked Ronald Reagan, too.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
509 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:31 pm to
Did anyone actually watch the video?

His stance was that the government shouldn't be involved in the medical care of children and that the parents should be the ones making the decision....specifically he was addressing the bill that was put in front of him.


I watched Asa get the vaccine on youtube when the covid shots were rolling out.

Tucker doing what Tucker does...he's gaslighting and going foxnews on him.

I'm not a huge fan of Asa or anything, but you guy should seriously hear him speak before you weigh in on what he has to say.


Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:35 pm to
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His stance was that the government shouldn't be involved in the medical care of children and that the parents should be the ones making the decision....specifically he was addressing the bill that was put in front of him.


So child genital mutilation is on the table for “conservatives.” Good argument.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31928 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:35 pm to
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His stance was that the government shouldn't be involved in the medical care of children and that the parents should be the ones making the decision....specifically he was addressing the bill that was put in front of him. I watched Asa get the vaccine on youtube when the covid shots were rolling out. Tucker doing what Tucker does...he's gaslighting and going foxnews on him. I'm not a huge fan of Asa or anything, but you guy should seriously hear him speak before you weigh in on what he has to say.




He asked a simple question. Asa addressed it as a treatment. He was hiding behind “parents choice”. You treat an illness. Does he believe you can be born the wrong sex?
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:38 pm to
You couldn't pay me to have a dinner with Asa and be forced to listen to that bitch speak.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:56 pm to
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His stance was that the government shouldn't be involved in the medical care of children and that the parents should be the ones making the decision


Here's the problem.

In order to be "medical care" one would assume it has some legitimate medical function and is used to treat something, successfully presumably. In the case of "gender affirming care," successful treatment would be "changing" the gender (sex) from one to the other.

Asa REFUSED to say that he agrees that can happen, AND YET continued to call it care and defer to parents. So...if he doesn't think it can happen, how can it be treatment...and if it's not treatment, why does he support a parent's right to subject a child to it?

This was pathetic Fence Sitting 101.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
509 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:06 pm to
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So child genital mutilation is on the table for “conservatives.” Good argument.


So you didn't watch the video. He specifically addressed this in the video...and said he was against it. But go on...
Posted by kennypowers
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Member since Mar 2009
509 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:09 pm to
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He asked a simple question. Asa addressed it as a treatment. He was hiding behind “parents choice”. You treat an illness.


You're completely missing the point. He's in favor of small government....which is what traditional republicans are for...

quote:

Does he believe you can be born the wrong sex?


He also addressed this in one of the videos also. He said there are 2 genders and that's it.

Jesus Christ...why are you guys making me defend this guy?
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
509 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:12 pm to
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This was pathetic Fence Sitting 101.


I think politicians are learning that they simply can't take a strong stance on much of anything these days. He can't rely on the geriatric vote because a large part of them are hard core Trump enthusiasts. He'll have to go after some of the younger crowd.

I'm guessing he's trying to carve out a small section of the party that are fence straddlers.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116014 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:14 pm to
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You're completely missing the point. He's in favor of small government....which is what traditional republicans are for...


It isn't "small government" to let children get mutilated

Small Government conservatives don't say "well you can sexually abuse your children, its none of the government's concern!"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260941 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:19 pm to
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Asa Hutchinson says that "permanent change is one issue, but also, hormonal change is a different issue..."




Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31928 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

You're completely missing the point. He's in favor of small government....which is what traditional republicans are for... quote:Does he believe you can be born the wrong sex? He also addressed this in one of the videos also. He said there are 2 genders and that's it.






I think given where we are now you have to ditch any double speak.


His words of treatment and gender bill goes against a simple phrase of “two genders”


Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
2224 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 6:26 pm to
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His stance was that the government shouldn't be involved in the medical care of children and that the parents should be the ones making the decision.


Right. He said parents should be allowed to abuse and mutilate their children. We understand what he said.

Everyone here has said that that piece of shite said the same thing you keep saying he said.

It’s no different. The words are different, perhaps, but the meaning is not changed.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26234 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:05 pm to
He's preaching to the quire.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111554 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

He specifically addressed this in the video...and said he was against it. But go on...


Puberty blockers aren’t reversible. So my point stands. You tried.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34234 posts
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:17 pm to
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His stance was that the government shouldn't be involved in the medical care of children


Cutting off their breasts / penis is not “medical care.”

Nor is chemical castration.

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