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re: Evangelicals turning on Catholics all of a sudden.

Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:40 am to
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 10:40 am to
Opus Dei/CIC propaganda.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:08 am to
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Thank God we have the Bible to teach us so we can see when someone has unbiblical views or positions.


It's obvious by now that we have many different Christian sects that disagree completely on what the Bible says. If you read my post, you can see that I gave a couple of examples. Within Presbyterianism, two different sects disagree completely on the issue of Homosexuals marrying and having sex with each other. Another Protestant sect, Pentecostal Oneness, teaches that the Holy Bible tells us that the Holy Trinity does not exist.

Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:11 am to
Catholics promised safe conduct to Jan Hus then had him burned at the stake as part of an ecumenical council without letting him even speak in his own defense.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:12 am to
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Big oof.

What percentage of Catholics think homosexuality is ok?

What a fricking embarrassing post with zero self-awareness.


Not an "oof" at ALL. The Official Catechism of the Catholic Church is clear about the sinful and disordered nature of Homosexual sexual activity.

The Official Doctrine of many Protestant sects teaches that Homosexual sexual activity is Godly and Good.

We are talking "official doctrine" here, not the various opinions of individual people.

In addition, now we have some Bible Alone/Faith Alone churches and preachers teaching that Abortion is Godly and Good, proven by the Bible verses regarding Blessed Virgin Mary herself. Again, this is their official church doctrine and not some individual's personal opinion.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:12 am to


Great.

Now you just need to get Catholics to follow Catholicism.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:14 am to
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In addition, now we have some Bible Alone/Faith Alone churches and preachers teaching that Abortion is Godly and Good, proven by the Bible verses regarding Blessed Virgin Mary herself.


Good. That leads to my next slide.


What value is the authoritative teaching if the students aren’t listening?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:16 am to
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What value is the authoritative teaching if the students aren’t listening?


Why are we conflating Christianity and government policy, exactly?

Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:16 am to
You’re not that dumb. Reread the post I responded to.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:19 am to
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In my experience, most clearly incorrect beliefs stem from not having read the. Ultimately, it comes down to whether someone is willing to test their beliefs against Scripture, many simply aren’t.


Feel free to educate those of your fellow Protestants who insist that they are Bible Alone/Faith Alone and yet believe that Scripture clearly teaches that Homosexual sexual activity is Godly and Good.

Feel free to educate those Presbyterians who say that the Bible clearly teaches that Abortion is Godly, Good and endorsed by Blessed Virgin Mary herself.

Feel free to educate those Pentecostalists who say that the Bible clearly teaches that the Holy Trinity does not exist. They insist that it is those who believe in the Trinity who read Scripture out of context with itself, or, who fail to properly interpret Scripture with the process of using Scripture to interpret itself.

Feel free to educate those Protestants who insist that Scripture clearly teaches that Jesus Christ Himself is an Archangel. They will tell you who believe differently that you have failed to interpret Scripture correctly.

Feel free to educate those Mormon Protestants who tell you that there's a whole other set of Scripture that you, in great error, ignore, which is the Book of Mormon. They will tell you that it is you who need to more clearly understand the clear meaning of Scripture.

Need I go on? All of these folks holding opposite Doctrines will tell that they themselves have tested "Scriptures in their proper context for themselves" and have thus have "tested their beliefs against Scripture", and that, if you would do that, too, you would agree with them.

I'm not trying to bash anybody around here. I'm just saying that many of us are using the same "tests" and still come up with opposite doctrinal beliefs.

And it is not intellectually honest to glibly contend that these opposite theological beliefs are minor or not important, when one sect says that a gay married couple having sex and adopting children is Predestined to go to Heaven no matter what past present or future Sins they commit, and another sect says these unrepentant, aggressive, active and very proud Sinners already have one foot in Hell.

This all goes back to my theme that, when everybody is their own teaching authority, we have no teaching authority at all. When everybody who has a Bible to read can be a teaching authority by proclaiming that the Bible inteprets itself - so let me tell you what it says - then we have no teaching authority at all.

This post was edited on 4/11/26 at 11:28 am
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:25 am to
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Mormon Protestants


Lol

Mormon Protestants
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:26 am to
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Feel free to educate those of your fellow Protestants who insist that they are Bible Alone/Faith Alone and yet believe that Scripture clearly teaches that Homosexual sexual activity is Godly and Good.


Seems like you should be plucking logs more than you’re casting stones.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:29 am to
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Seems like you should be plucking logs more than you’re casting stones.


I don't know what you mean by that since I emphasize that I'm not bashing anybody. I'm simply conducting some rational and logical analysis on Theology here on the Religion Board.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:33 am to
75% of Catholics believe homosexuality should be accepted.

You’re telling Protestants to get in line and you don’t have your own house in order.

Start those logs, Ignatius.
Posted by GoblinGuide
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:35 am to
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I have no problem with Catholics or their beliefs, but this Pope needs to snap out of it.


What has he been doing?
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:35 am to
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Good. That leads to my next slide.


My friend, let me once again clarify the contrasting context of my point about how some Protestant churches teach as a matter of Official Church Doctrine, tested and proved by Scripture alone that is tested against Scripture alone: that Abortion is good and endorsed by Jesus's Mother Mary.

This is true. No factual dissent is possible on this point of fact.

Now, contrast this with another fact - some members of various Christian churches, as individuals, silently disagree with their own Church's Official Doctrine that Abortion is Murder of a Child.

These are two completely different things. One church's official doctrine is that Mary the Blessed Virgin endorses Abortion and the other church's official doctrine say that she doesn't. Both churches will support their own diametrically opposed doctrines with reference to Scripture.

This thread is kind of Hijacked because I don't agree at all that Evangelicals have "all of a sudden" turned on Catholics. There have always been differences between the two groups. Evangelicals obviously contend that the Catholics are wrong about some things, and the Catholics vice versa. But, overall, I'd say that the fellowship and fraternal affection between the to groups is very good, at the moment.

This post was edited on 4/11/26 at 11:39 am
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:40 am to
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75% of Catholics believe homosexuality should be accepted.

You’re telling Protestants to get in line and you don’t have your own house in order.

Start those logs, Ignatius.


PROVE IT. You can't. It's a lie.

And in any case you keep distorting the integrity of the conversation on purpose in order to sow confusion. Satan uses these tactics.

I'm talking about Official Protestant Church Doctrine in some churches that proclaims that the Holy Bible itself teaches that Gay Male Sexual activity is NOT a sin. You keep trying to strike down my argument by contending that some Catholics support Gay Male Sex as Godly, and you ignore the fact that the Catholic Catechism clearly states that it's a Mortal Sin that will send them to Hell.

Please stop using Satan's Tactics. I do concede that some Catholics enjoy and approve of Gay Male Sex. But the point is that the Catholic church's official doctrine is that they are going to Hell today if they die today in that state of sin.
This post was edited on 4/11/26 at 11:45 am
Posted by yakster
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:40 am to
You mean all the way back to Jesus ministry? Because there is no church before Him.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:41 am to
You should try reading the thread.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 11:48 am to
I apologize for hijacking the thread a bit.

I do not agree with the notion that Evangelicals are turning on Catholics all of a sudden. I contend that ecumenical feelings of mutual fraternal affection are good at the moment in the USA. Each sect has within its own membership, a number of Leftists who espouse secular political beliefs that are destructive, but, in any large group of people, you will find people of different secular political persuasion.
Posted by BigD43
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Posted on 4/11/26 at 12:04 pm to
Evangelicals/Catholics. Arent we all God's children?
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