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re: Ethiopian church that houses the Ark of the Covenant attacked
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:43 am to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:43 am to ThinePreparedAni
Meh. Call me when someone blows up that mosque on the Temple Mount.
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:45 am to Wtodd
quote:The ark HAS been looked at by a scholar and determined to be an obvious fake.
You don't know that. I've seen a couple of specials about it and I too am skeptical BUT the Ark being in Ethiopia isn't a stretch; whether it's in this church or not is a different story.
Sorry, YouTubing Q-berts.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:48 am to Mo Jeaux
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They're touching the Kaaba. Not the stone that's inside.
Semantics.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:49 am to blueboy
Scholars also said Troy was a myth until Heinrich Schleimon dug it up. Scholars are always quick to discourage the possibility of the existence of any object or location mentioned in mythology or religious texts because they believe admitting the existence of such gives legitimacy to the religious and the superstitious. The reality is that these myths are all based in some true events and can be verified, but scholars will go on denying them until long after the proof in stone is staring them in the face.
Obviously, it has not been proven that the ark is in Ethiopia, and they won’t let anyone in to prove it. That doesn’t exactly lend credence to the idea, but it also doesn’t eliminate the possibility completely. There’s a historical/mythological account that fits the timeline, has remained consistent for 3000 years, and has at least some archaeological evidence surrounding it. To complete dismiss it all as just “hokey superstition” is to be willfully ignorant or intentionally obtuse.
Obviously, it has not been proven that the ark is in Ethiopia, and they won’t let anyone in to prove it. That doesn’t exactly lend credence to the idea, but it also doesn’t eliminate the possibility completely. There’s a historical/mythological account that fits the timeline, has remained consistent for 3000 years, and has at least some archaeological evidence surrounding it. To complete dismiss it all as just “hokey superstition” is to be willfully ignorant or intentionally obtuse.
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:49 am to BoarEd
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Semantics.
In other words, you were wrong. Yes, I know you were. You can believe they worship a stone if you want to though.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:50 am to Mo Jeaux
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In other words, you were wrong. Yes, I know you were. You can believe they worship a stone if you want to though.
Thanks for permission. I will, because they do.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:51 am to BoarEd
cool
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:52 am to blueboy
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The ark HAS been looked at by a scholar and determined to be an obvious fake.
You have a reference? Link?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:52 am to kingbob
quote:Right. He dug it up, whereas there was no evidfence of it before. Here, we have an an artifact that already existed and is purported to be something that it isn't.
Scholars also said Troy was a myth until Heinrich Schleimon dug it up.
Not the same thing.
Sorry Indiana Jones, the Ark of the Covenant Is Not Inside This Ethiopian Church
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:55 am to Mo Jeaux
What's interesting to me is that I believe the original benben stone was one of these meteorites as well. The Egyptians claimed the same properties of the benben stone and it's roughly the same description as the stone at Mecca. These meteorites sometimes get shaped into a cone (pyramidal shaped) as they enter our atmosphere. The lead edge of the stone begins to melt and slough off towards the trailing end. The Egyptians believed that the benben stone would impart wisdom and higher consciousness to anyone in the stone's presence.
I think back in the day these people thought these meteorites were gifts from God. Thus why they became so sacred.
I think back in the day these people thought these meteorites were gifts from God. Thus why they became so sacred.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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houses the Ark of the Covenant
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No it doesn't.
Others agree with you apparently.
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One day, in 1978, an Archeologist named Ron Wyatt was walking not far from the Damascus Gate, in Jerusalem, along an ancient stone quarry, known to many as Golgatha, the Place of a skull "the Calvary Escarpment." Ron was talking with a man from the local Israeli Antiquities Authority. They were talking about Roman antiquities when without warning his left hand pointed to pile of dirt, stone, and trash at the bottom of the cliff face. The people living in Jerusalem were using this sacred holy place as a rubbish dump, and Ron said, "That's Jeremiah's Grotto and the Ark of the Covenant is in there."
Ron Wyatt speaking in 1999
Ron Wyatt's purported death bed interview
Wyatt Museum
LINK
[In posting all this I seemingly minimized the real horror of the murder of nearly a thousand Christians. Not my intention. Apologies. I got carried away on an interesting tangent.]
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 11:47 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:00 am to Mr. Misanthrope
Rony Wyatt is suspect.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:02 am to blueboy
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Sorry Indiana Jones, the Ark of the Covenant Is Not Inside This Ethiopian Church
I was thinking there was going to be more here than simply some guy from the 1940s who purportedly saw this thing and said, "nah, that's not it."
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:05 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I was thinking there was going to be more here than simply some guy from the 1940s who purportedly saw this thing and said, "nah, that's not it."
Thanks. I was trying to figure out how to word that.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:08 am to BoarEd
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What do you disbelieve about this thread?
Literally everything being discussed in this thread is make believe
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:13 am to Roger Klarvin
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What do you disbelieve about this thread?
Literally everything being discussed in this thread is make believe
I mean, there is a undeniable reality of religious influence on almost all aspects human civilization that does not require one's personal belief in anything supernatural in order to recognize. I'm not sure why that is difficult for some.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:15 am to Roger Klarvin
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Literally everything being discussed in this thread is make believe
Wrong.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:15 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm not sure why that is difficult for some.
Because disbelief in a god at all is self-contradictory, lol.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:16 am to Mo Jeaux
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Weird. Well, Muslims literally believe that God has the power to absolve them of their sins, so I guess they worship God.
They do worship God, just because he is called a different name it is still God. The Koran and Bible are pretty close in text in places.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:19 am to sms151t
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They do worship God, just because he is called a different name it is still God. The Koran and Bible are pretty close in text in places.
The Koran is a bad copy (plagiarism) of the Old Testament, some 1,200-1,400 years or more after the latest of the OT was written.
Their concept of "god" is not logically the same as the Judeo-Christian concept of "god" at all.
You have to very loosely define the characteristics of "god" to reach that conclusion. And it's shallow.
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 11:20 am
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