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re: Erika Kirk Is A Bigger Man Than Me

Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:38 pm to
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I could not forgive that gay fricker for murdering my spouse. frick that fig.

Yep. I'd want my pound of flesh and then some.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5993 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:38 pm to
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Erika Kirk Is A Bigger Man Than Me

Does it take a bigger man to forgive Hitler with some words, or to storm Normandy, Invade Germany, and make sure he puts a bullet in his brain.

These people aren't God, when people act like they forgive others it's a joke.

The Forgiveness the Bible talks about is far more than an empty "I forgive them".

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39626 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:39 pm to
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These people aren't God, when people act like they forgive others it's a joke.


What exactly do you mean ?
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5960 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:41 pm to
I think he’s trying to say it takes a bigger person to go and kill Tyler Robinson than to forgive him. I think.
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
516 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:46 pm to
I said this in another thread...forgiveness doesn't mean freedom from consequences. It means letting go of the hatred that becomes a cancer to the soul. It doesn't mean not fighting for what's right. It means the fuel you use for the fight is righteous indignation, not hatred. Hatred makes you do evil things. God is on the side of righteousness, and he gives the victory.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:46 pm to
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What exactly do you mean ?


When Stephen was stoned, he prayed to God to forgive those killing him.
He cannot forgive them their sins, but he forgave them for stoning them and asked God to save them, that is true forgiveness.

When people forgive, they restore the relationship that they had before, withholding retribution, yes, but more than that, bringing Christ's and word to them, like the father of the prodigal son, he restored him.

This was just another empty "I forgive you" that is prevalent in American culture.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5993 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:48 pm to
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I think he’s trying to say it takes a bigger person to go and kill Tyler Robinson than to forgive him. I think.

I'm saying it's empty, empty words.

You can dislike that all you want, but those words have no action behind them.

Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5960 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:53 pm to
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I said this in another thread...forgiveness doesn't mean freedom from consequences. It means letting go of the hatred that becomes a cancer to the soul. It doesn't mean not fighting for what's right. It means the fuel you use for the fight is righteous indignation, not hatred. Hatred makes you do evil things. God is on the side of righteousness, and he gives the victory.



100%
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45771 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:54 pm to
She is evidencing a new and changed heart given by the Holy Spirit. That’s what being “born again” looks like: with man these things are impossible but with God, they are possible.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5960 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:54 pm to
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When Stephen was stoned, he prayed to God to forgive those killing him. He cannot forgive them their sins, but he forgave them for stoning them and asked God to save them, that is true forgiveness. When people forgive, they restore the relationship that they had before, withholding retribution, yes, but more than that, bringing Christ's and word to them, like the father of the prodigal son, he restored him. This was just another empty "I forgive you" that is prevalent in American culture.




Well, God calls us to forgive and I don’t consider obeying Christ to be “empty.”
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
516 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:55 pm to
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I'm saying it's empty, empty words.

You can dislike that all you want, but those words have no action behind them.



If she is going to carry out this work, she has to have more fight in her than a keyboard warrior like you. You talk big, but what have YOU actually done. I would guess very little. No judgment, I have been convicted because of my own weakness and inaction. She is fueling herself for the fight. She needs the Holy Spirit, not hatred.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
136077 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:55 pm to
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She understands the power she just released with that forgiveness


Yep, she is saying what Charlie would say.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5563 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:56 pm to
When one is filled with the Holy Spirit it makes it easier.
Posted by MajorityWhip
Member since Oct 2020
1167 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 5:57 pm to
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It doesn't mean not fighting for what's right. It means the fuel you use for the fight is righteous indignation, not hatred. Hatred makes you do evil things. God is on the side of righteousness, and he gives the victory.


This is very interesting. Please explain more. I honestly do not see how it is even possible.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5993 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 6:00 pm to
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Well, God calls us to forgive and I don’t consider obeying Christ to be “empty.”

Saying the words I forgive and doing nothing else is empty.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5993 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 6:02 pm to
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If she is going to carry out this work, she has to have more fight in her than a keyboard warrior like you. You talk big, but what have YOU actually done. I would guess very little. No judgment, I have been convicted because of my own weakness and inaction. She is fueling herself for the fight. She needs the Holy Spirit, not hatred.

We will see.

I suspect you will be disappointed how Turning Point disappears.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/21/25 at 6:05 pm to
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Erika Kirk
Posted by yakster
Member since Mar 2021
3535 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 6:06 pm to
Forgiveness is not to let him off the hook. It frees the giver of forgiveness and doesn’t bind them up with vitriol and hatred. Basically it’s freedom to continue to do what the Lord would have them doing.
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
516 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 6:07 pm to
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This is very interesting. Please explain more. I honestly do not see how it is even possible


i think it is just trying to be Christ-like. Christ felt anger and acted on it, but didn't sin. It was righteous anger about how they treated his Father's house. He was murdered, but asked God to forgive those who did it instead of seeking revenge.

Charlie was a warrior, but he looked at lost people the way Jesus did and reached out with truth, love, and compassion. You can't do that when you are filled with anger and hatred. I will be honest and say I struggle with this. I feel a lot of anger and hatred right now, and I pray that God helps me forgive because I know it's right.
This post was edited on 9/21/25 at 6:11 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56929 posts
Posted on 9/21/25 at 6:11 pm to
It's called waking the faith.

It's easy to be a Christian when it's going your way or involves people you like.

But this....this........ this is the test.

quote:

Again he asked them, “Who is it you want?”

“Jesus of Nazareth,” they said.

8 Jesus answered, “I told you that I am he. If you are looking for me, then let these men go.” 9 This happened so that the words he had spoken would be fulfilled: “I have not lost one of those you gave me.”[a]

10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus.)

11 Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”




This post was edited on 9/21/25 at 6:14 pm
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