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re: Episcopal Church says it won’t help resettle white South Africans granted refugee status i

Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:27 pm to
Just sad. Truly, truly sad.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20423 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:40 pm to
Can anyone justify this on religious grounds?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1949 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:41 pm to
I wonder how many more churches will leave the Episcopal Churxhvafter this. Thr Episcopal Church is dying. Not necessarily Anglicans - but like all mainline churches, the Episcopals won't be around much longer.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
14379 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:43 pm to
The self-hate of the woke white liberal is truly something to behold. They honestly believe they are better people for hating themselves and their race.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:58 pm to
No legitimate Christian institution that I can think of.

As for 'anyone,' perhaps the Satanists?!?!
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11451 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 6:59 pm to
These white South African refugees are not in any real harm but it is tickling the fear conservatives of a certain stripe have about being a white minority. Focusing on stupid shite like this is just fodder for liberals to use to paint the GOP’s immigration policy as nothing more than white ethnostate/herrenvolk democracy/etc.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
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13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:00 pm to
No, I'm still waiting to hear your answer about favoring 'racial justice' over aiding people who are being exterminated by genocide.

Still waiting......
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
8341 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
quote:

These white South African refugees are not in any real harm but it is tickling the fear conservatives of a certain stripe have about being a white minority.


Totally false. Demonstrably untrue.

quote:

The number of killings is worrying. Last year, there were more than 300 farm attacks and 50 murders. A particularly horrific incident in Mpumalanga, in the east of the country, happened in July: 79-year-old farmer Theo Bekker was bludgeoned over the head with an iron bar. His throat was slit and he bled to death. Bekker’s wife, Marlinda, was tied up and had a bag pulled over her head. Even when victims survive – as Marlinda did – the level of violence in these attacks can be ferocious. Torture and rape are common. Afrikaans Bibles have been left open on dismembered bodies.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:03 pm to
So, you know so much about the situation that you're certain they're not facing harm. You are full of it!

I have a very close friend who still has family in SA. Yes, they're white. Yes, they're farmers. Yes, many have already left to New Zealand, Russia and Australia. Those who remain have had gangs of black hoodlums invade their farms and threaten their families with machetes and machine guns. During the day, at night, it doesn't matter.

My friend remembers that, as a child, her family had an escape plan that was drilled into each child's mind at an early age.

So stay in your lane and don't assume you know more than you do! You don't.
Posted by Lynxrufus2012
Central Kentucky
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:05 pm to
I thought they wanted Africa for Black Africans?

Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:06 pm to
So did I. But they refuse to admit publicly that SA has become nothing but a s--thole without the white talent.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7171 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:08 pm to
It’s throwing the baby out with the bath water IMO but TEC doesn’t want to play Trumps games. Trump ended virtually all resettlement in Jan and then fast tracked only SAs, despite there being many more worthy recipients.

Wouldn’t the Christian thing to be to add these SAs to the resettling refugees efforts? Can anyone on a religious ground make the case for these SAs over any of the other more worthy recipients?

Why is this administration getting a pass (rhetorical question, I know why)?
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7171 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:09 pm to
No im out on that too. TEC should keep doing it anyway. They’ve successfully resettled a lot of ppl.

Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:10 pm to
I don't think there is any difference between Anglicans and Episcopalians except location. Anglicans are in Britain, and the Episcopalians in the US. And it's not like the church of England is any prime example of standing up for Christian principles. I haven't heard peep from Canterbury or elsewhere about the invasion of the heirs of Saladin.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11451 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

So, you know so much about the situation that you're certain they're not facing harm. You are full of it! I have a very close friend who still has family in SA. Yes, they're white. Yes, they're farmers. Yes, many have already left to New Zealand, Russia and Australia. Those who remain have had gangs of black hoodlums invade their farms and threaten their families with machetes and machine guns. During the day, at night, it doesn't matter. My friend remembers that, as a child, her family had an escape plan that was drilled into each child's mind at an early age. So stay in your lane and don't assume you know more than you do! You don't.

Talking confidently about stuff you know nothing about is the law of the internet. I will admit ignorance but I still think it is a bad look when coupled with the afghan refugee decision.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20423 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:13 pm to
They were fine resettling “poor refugees” under Biden.

What’s the difference?

Do these poor unfortunate souls not need help because Trump is in office?

Why isn’t Jesus compelling them to help them like all the Latinos? Because that’s what they were doing this for right?

It was all about helping refugees as they told us repeatedly.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7171 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:17 pm to
They do need help. But we know they’re not the only ones, and yet they’re the only ones we can seem to help.

Again, what’s the religious (or hell even just intellectually honest) justification for that???
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:17 pm to
You know, if Trump cared about what 'looks bad' he'd be a democrat named Biden.

Thank God he doesn't give 2 you-know-whats!
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13579 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:20 pm to
The only ones?!?! Come on now, let's not exaggerate. It's just that the others we're helping don't produce obnoxious headlines like these guys.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
1949 posts
Posted on 5/12/25 at 7:21 pm to
I dont know a whole lot about it but I know there are churches in the US that split from the Episcopal Church but still remain Anglican. Episcopals have lost something like a third of their congegrations since same sex marriage. And that there are Anglican churches elsewhere in the world that are more conservative theologically than the Episcopals
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