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re: Employees asking to be laid off
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:06 am to Ag Zwin
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:06 am to Ag Zwin
I’m on furlough. Could taken a lay off but I like the company I’m with and waited. That was 4 weeks ago. I found side jobs to help out but being able to go to work and asking for a lay off is what’s wrong with people.
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Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:13 am to cajunangelle
You can't get it if you quit and the company can fight it if you are fired for certain reasons.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:13 am to SSpaniel
Why would you want an employee that doesn’t want to be there?
You do something like that and they are just going to do shite work.
In this economy you can pick another employee right now and if they can make more on unemployment than employee then their job can’t be that hard to replace with a warm body.
You do something like that and they are just going to do shite work.
In this economy you can pick another employee right now and if they can make more on unemployment than employee then their job can’t be that hard to replace with a warm body.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:15 am to GeauxtigersMs36
I’m in this invetween. My company furloughed a bunch and bumped the rest of us down to 75% (30 hours). Feel robbed because if I’m furloughed I get basically what I was making, or if my company did the loan and retain everyone I would be getting full pay. They intend to bring everyone back, the nature of our business is that we will be very busy when things open up.
I’m hoping my company is working on taking the many advantages they have available right now. That’s where I find a problem.
I’m hoping my company is working on taking the many advantages they have available right now. That’s where I find a problem.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:17 am to Aristo
IMO bad look to fight it depending on the size of your business and such.
Unfortunately it is sometimes better to just let things go. You don’t want to become a place that looks like shite to work for if you have competition.
Unfortunately it is sometimes better to just let things go. You don’t want to become a place that looks like shite to work for if you have competition.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:17 am to tigeraddict
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if you make $15/hr you only get $600/wk total ($247 state + $353 fed)
you will not get $847 if you don't already make that much
Do you have a link on this? I thought everyone would get the +$600 a week regardless with the idea being the average worker receives 100% income replacement. Meaning some will get more, some will get less.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:19 am to BROpaneTANK
From the worker side I would see what the competition is doing and if they are treating employees better I’d jump if I had the ability to do it.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:19 am to Big4SALTbro
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IMO bad look to fight it depending on the size of your business and such.
Well, it depends on the reasons. A company will not fight it if you run out of work, but they will fight it if you were a terrible employee, to begin with.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:23 am to BobLeeDagger
quote:We find ourselves once more in agreement.
What's dumb is that these employees are sacrificing long term security for short term gains.
Been at my job almost 22 years though, and haven't made it this long by being shortsighted and lazy.
People who try to take advantage, this will eventually come back to bite them hard one way or another.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:24 am to beebefootballfan
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Fire them for cause and find somebody who is hungry.
Yep. Someone who wants to forfeit steady employment for four months of free money isn't an employee I'd want on my payroll anyway. Turn 'em loose.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:26 am to Ag Zwin
How will they make more money by being laid off? Are they minimum wage workers? Even still..
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:27 am to Ag Zwin
Tell him to send me an email. I'll probably be laid off and may like one of the positions open
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:27 am to Ag Zwin
Where it could get interesting is if an employee insists on sheltering at home for the duration. Even if their work can’t be accomplished from there. What do you do then? I’ve heard of a couple cases where the employee practically dared their company not to let them. And this was before the shutdown.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 10:54 am to Powerman
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With my previous company you could immediately terminate someone for asking for a lay off when on reduction of force was warranted.
What is the benefit of such a policy? So if a single man near retirement age asked to be laid off rather than than a single mother of 3, he could be fired instead?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:06 pm to BROpaneTANK
So the company has to take the loan? If they don’t then you miss out of who knows how long unemployment or getting another job ( I’m union).
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:10 pm to Ag Zwin
Is the work being done somewhere that is under a shelter in place or similar order? If so is it covered as an essential job?
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:30 pm to Ag Zwin
I’m seeing every scenario. Quit, stay home for health reasons, requesting lay-offs. It’s gonna be a bitch any way it’s sliced.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:40 pm to Ag Zwin
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Hasn’t happened to me yet, but one of our biggest customers has had 3 employees ask to be laid off because they would make more money. He won’t do it because he needs them to work. This perverse incentive has three paths when people want to do this: 1. Lay employee off. Saves you money, but crippled you if you are fortunate enough to have the business that needs that work. Only winner is the employee. 2. Keep them there, but then they go “Union Gangster” on you and still don’t do the work. Now you are paying them for crappy or non-existent output. Again, employee wins. 3. They quit, and get no bennies. No winners. This won’t happen. Yet Bernie Sanders casts this as mean business owners who resent an employee who has made less than the benefit amount for a long time now having a chance to finally put more in his pocket. Never fricking mind how it precipitates less productivity and more costs for everybody, much less the perversion of the incentive itself. This is just bad, and anybody with a lick of business sense could see it coming from a mile away.
Lots of people will be asking to be laid off and paid under the table for the next 4 months.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 4:48 pm to Ag Zwin
The people who work are the ones that have to, so no they don't want to be fired.
Posted on 3/27/20 at 5:33 pm to tigeraddict
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They will not make more they will make the same up to the max from state + a max of $600 from fed IE, LA pays up to $247/wk + $600 fed you get $847/wk (equivelent to $44044/yr) if you make $15/hr you only get $600/wk total ($247 state + $353 fed) you will not get $847 if you don't already make that much EDIT: also, you have to be actively looking for work to receive unemployment benefits, you there are jobs hiring and you dont take, you lose benefits If you don't work to get force a layoff, if documented correctly you can fire, then you dont qualify for benefits only RIF (reduction in force) gaurantees unemploymnet This post was edited on 3/27 at 10:05 am
I think this is incorrect. I hope you are correct, but I don’t think it is.
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