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re: Elon talks new bill failing
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The leader of the party has just signaled that debt isnt a barrier.
Anyone who thinks we should suspend the debt ceiling in this environment is wrong. Period.
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:59 am to momentoftruth87
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Don’t we already have massive debt? Where were you the last 4 years when the debt severely increased? You were on here trying to convince everyone not to vote for Trump instead of complaining about the spending.
Compare trump and Biden deficit spending.... What you'll find is that there's not much of a difference. Bidens been driving deficit down since Donald's covid spending spree
Posted on 12/20/24 at 8:59 am to Bard
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Anyone who thinks we should suspend the debt ceiling in this environment is wrong. Period.
I'll gladly be wrong to support proper conservative principles.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:01 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why pre-covid?
Because EVERYONE's life was worse under covid...
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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In deed. Get ready for Trump to blow up the economy in 3 years like he did previously.
Imagine the low IQ and severe TDS you must have to believe Trump destroyed the economy. People who say this should not be taken seriously.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:03 am to TigerFanatic99
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He's completely ignoring that damned near 40 republicans opposed it as well. That's about as bipartisan as you're gonna get in today's world.
Liz Cheney and the whole CRIMINAL Jan. 6 cabal got a pass in that Bill. NO Bill that allows that should be voted in.
Will be interesting to see what Bannon says on this. He's up and I'm in.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'll gladly be wrong to support proper conservative principles.
What are your "proper" conservative principles you speak of?
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:05 am to oklahogjr
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Compare trump and Biden deficit spending....
Now compare deficit spending under Trump (pre covid) and under biden (post covid)....
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:05 am to jbdawgs03
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A super fair & simple bill was put to a vote and only 2 Democrats in Congress were in favor. Therefore, responsibility for the shutdown rests squarely on the shoulders of @RepJeffries
Ah yes the ole they didn't take our first offer so it's their fault. Please ignore Republicans walking back the agreed upon budget. While disgusting they gave themselves raises going back on their negotiations is equally disappointing
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:06 am to RollTide4547
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Because EVERYONE's life was worse under covid...
Which was the impetus for inflation.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
Roger, get back to watching the View.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'll gladly be wrong to support proper conservative principles.
There's nothing proper nor conservative about suspending the debt ceiling when you're $36T+ in debt.
Support for a candidate or politician should never be an all-or-nothing scenario. In that vein, I would hope to see more people siding with philosophy rather than waffling due to hero worship.
But here we are.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Which was the impetus for inflation.
And water is wet and ice is cold. The inflation reduction act didn't reduct the inflation much. Point is, when you compare apples to apples Trump's apples were better, for me anyway. Regardless, the election is over and he won. Time for the TDS inflicted to shut up and seek help.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:11 am to roadGator
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I’m better of now than when Trump was in office
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:12 am to RollTide4547
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Now compare deficit spending under Trump (pre covid) and under biden (post covid)....
Trump increased the yearly deficit from 590,000,000,000 to 980,000,000,000 1.6x increase. Without counting covid.
Biden decreased the deficit from 2,770,000,000,000 to 1,833,000,000,000 33% decrease.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:13 am to oklahogjr
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oklahogjr
Biden bro
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:14 am to SDVTiger
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This place is going to be a mess with OnlyRon fans crying about every single thing
What does this have to do with DeSantis?
You RDS nerds really need to seek counseling.
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:15 am to Bard
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There's nothing proper nor conservative about suspending the debt ceiling when you're $36T+ in debt.
What has the debt ceiling done for us over the past 20 years? Has it reduced any spending? Seems to me like it has made things worse, by creating all of the "crisis's" where they get more and more and more and more pork in to avoid the current "crisis", only to extend it to the next "crisis"...
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:15 am to RollTide4547
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What are your "proper" conservative principles you speak of?
Individual Freedom
Limited Government
The Rule of Law
Peace through Strength
Fiscal Responsibility
Free Markets
Posted on 12/20/24 at 9:23 am to oklahogjr
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oklahogjr
Interesting take. Here is what I see
Year Deficit
2017 665B
2018 779B
2019 984B
2022 1376B
2023 1684B
2024 is projected to be close to 2 Trillion (2000B) again
Seems biden will have added 5 Trillion in 3 years where Trump added about 2.5 Trillion. If one is concerned about the debt, adding half as much additional debt seems to be better.
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