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re: Elon Musk validates USDebtClock - predicts universal high income

Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by Sisyphus
Member since Feb 2014
2000 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:36 pm to
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Yes. If everyone were given 1 million dollars tomorrow, purchasing power would rapidly decrease as hyper inflation takes hold. Soon the poverty level would simply be at a much higher income level.


A good example from history is the Hajj of Mansa Musa of Mali. He gave away so much gold that it became almost worthless, economies of whole countries collapsed. That was just one man.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173449 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:47 pm to
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is ok to admit you're a poor who has never actually driven a Tesla with fsd.

I've driven a Tesla. I think the waymo cars do better with self driving. I think Tesla is still a few years away.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8398 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:00 pm to
The concept is great but who is going to fix the AC? The here are all kinds of issues

Who is going to be a trial lawyer and a judge and a jury? Robots can't do those jobs

With everyone else not working and getting paid these will need 3-4 times the UBI

What happens to colleges? No need if no work.

Too much uncertainty and I think an UBI is decades away and the wars will have taken place by then

And did nobody watch the will smith robot movie Damn
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
54681 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:23 pm to
If work is optional, then money is irrelevant
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4415 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:29 pm to
Star Trek comes at you fast.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16871 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:54 pm to
It's easy for your mind to wonder when you give deep thought to this topic. What happens to the stock market, The job market, People's 401ks, retirement accounts, etc. If you knew this were to be true.. and it's starting to feel more and more like when and not if at this point given AI/LLM advances.. how would that change your financial decisions in preperation for it? Would we still contribute so aggressively to our retirement accounts and the broader market in general knowing there's a chance that it morphs into something completely unrecognizable? Or would we spend that money in a completely different way knowing there's a chance the world we knew has transformed so much that those things become more obsolete & you lose everything that you worked so hard for when society & the financial system resets. Those are life altering decisions. It's interesting to even speculate about something as paradigm changing as that. Even crazier to think that's only 1 tiny piece of the greater puzzle anyone under 60-70 is likely going to have to navigate in the future.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 12:51 am
Posted by Woolfpack
Member since Jun 2021
1701 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 5:05 am to
There is a lot of new technology. Where it all takes us, how it all blends, in to the near future, is an interesting question.

Crypto/Banking
AI
Robots
Drones
Self Driving
Space Exploration
Energy
VR/AR
Blockchain
Gaming/Metaverse
Surveillance/Security
Quantum Computing
Gene Therapy
Individual Medicine
Facial Recognition
Robot/Human Hybrid
Longevity

I’m probably forgetting some stuff.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
3141 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:07 am to
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work optional society will collapse under the inherent sloth of humans.


No it wont.

Males will always create a biological hierarchy amongst themselves which women will adhere to when picking mates.

Everything men do right now is for status and validation to mate.

"Work ethic" will be applied to something else. Those in power will find some other means to enslave the low IQ people of the world. All the while, they will set up a system where the majority of people try to out act instead of out think the solution.
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
6974 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:10 am to
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Working will be optional in the future.




We'll never learn.
Posted by nugget
Abrego Garcia Fan
Member since Dec 2009
15730 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:42 am to
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I've driven a Tesla. I think the waymo cars do better with self driving. I think Tesla is still a few years away.


Then you’re retarded. I drove my MSP from Memphis to the Woodlands a few weeks ago and the only time I touched the steering wheel was to pull in the charger. Can Waymo do that?
Posted by TFH
Member since Apr 2016
4189 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:52 am to
I love all this shite about “there won’t be any work”.

Okay. Sure thing.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:37 am to
That can be the real Optimus, right? Looks like a piece of shite from that video.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
13332 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:11 pm to
That's when we will mass depopulation... which COVID was a test run for. To see how easy it would be to convince people to turn on their own neighbors, friends, family and report them for not blindly going along with the demands of their globalist overlords... even when it comes to taking a vaccine meant to thin the herd.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130060 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 3:12 pm to
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We'll get universal high income around the same time his FSD actually works



It works now so that is not true
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21773 posts
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:12 pm to
War on banks

State credit unions and crypto to replace them.

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Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
4113 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:38 am to
Talk about a bleak future. What one does for a living should never define a person but everyone needs a sense of purpose otherwise we all end up like the folks on welfare.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298320 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:40 am to
Turn your hobbies into a service or goods you can make money from. You wouldnt be limited to UBI.

Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
7847 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:47 am to
The only way to hold off UBI is to tax the bejesus out of robots & AI productivity. There will have to be serious incentives to hire people and not robots/AI.

Humans will not be able to compete in any industry, it'll be owners and everyone else. I don't know how UBI would work longterm but I don't see an alternative.
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