re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong

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my staff is getting all tasks done in half a day, theyre underworked.

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Or you hired highly efficient people?

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Want to be an employee? Work with the other employees.

You want to do two jobs simultaneously, you should be on contract. Gives people a choice with applicable tradeoffs.

Your way assumes all employees are equal, and they are not in any way shape or form.

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My company has multiple locations and there is no one local to me that does what I do. I can go in and listen to a bunch of people sit around and gossip, distract me with pop ins, and generally have no one to collaborate with in person. It's a total waste of my time to go into an office to be around people I don't work with.

Your way is assuming all employees need to be working together when that's not needed in today's world. We worry about talent, not whether they have a butt in a seat. We had 3 buildings before Covid and they sold off 2 of them. Only people whose jobs require them to be in office are mandated to go in. The cost savings of not having to hire security, maintenance, janitorial, and other side jobs is tremendous.

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Or you hired highly efficient people?

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Most people are not uber motivated. They'll do what they only have to do.

Competition in the workplace seems foreign to younger folks who are more entitled than previous generations.

Competitive people should be rewarded, those are the people who can work independently at a high level.

90% of humans will do the least they have to do, blue or white collar. They dont understand the value of competition.

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if F2F is needed for particular meetings then you have 3 days in office where all meetings should take place and then the other two days are solo work from their homes.

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Yeah there are all sorts of ways to manage these issues without over-managing your productive employees.

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I have a friend that is WFH and is always complaining about how busy he is. His wife told me he barely does shite except get in her way and wishes he would go back to the office

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At least your made up example was actually an example of WFH this time.

You're getting better

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clearly said pay by results. Where did you frick that up?

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Right fricking here…

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If my staff is getting all tasks done in half a day, theyre underworked.

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Why so angry? Lots of sand in your vagina this morning?

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Did that guy really just cite his buddy's wife as a source?

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Yes.

Better than his example of WFH stealing from employers by using an example of an hourly employee who has to work at a specific location.

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If my staff is getting all tasks done in half a day, theyre underworked.


Why so angry?

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when you cant compete with ideas, claim theyre angry.

Why do you dipshits pretend disagreeing with you lightweights makes a man angry?

Because you get irrationally angry and project.

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Why can't employees who are salaried be judged on their productivity/results?

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They can. If you finish in 4 hours, you get more work, and more compensation.

Its you that has an issue with it.

Musk has no clue what he's talking about here. My brother works from a home office on the west coast. He reports to a guy who works from a home office in London. They both manage teams that include people in California, Washington State and Texas. As a group they develop software that works.

For many industries and positions, it is not necessary that the company pay office tower rent, and for some it is not necessary that they all live in the same town.