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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong

Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:19 am to
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
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Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:19 am to
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Someone said he is ashamed of his upbringing and it makes total sense. Its pathological with him.


Its definitely something deep rooted in him. This has nothing to do with salary/hourly workers. It has to do with fraud and theft from your employer.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476287 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:21 am to
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I just told you I worked at a Hospital where I was on salary and had to be at the hospital for 40 hours a week.


They're in the hourly mindset.

But that job actually requires you to be at "the office" and on call, due to the variability of the timing of demand of your services, so it is OK for the mindset.

That's not what we are discussing, as has been explained to you many times.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
84983 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:21 am to
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Youre wanting so badly to be outraged here.




I’m not the one calling people names and flipping out
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:21 am to
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Its definitely something deep rooted in him. This has nothing to do with salary/hourly workers.


He is afraid that if he feels compensated hourly, then he is a failure among his peer group.

Its pathological with him.

That sad part is his poor upbringing should be his biggest plus. The ability to live in and understand both worlds. But hes too fricking narcissistic and stubborn to realize it.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8359 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:22 am to
Having to operate a physical office (or a larger physical office than necessary) is inefficient.

He is right that a lot of people frick around on the clock. But has he been in most offices around the country?

I might frick around a little more at home than I would in the office, but when I lock in I get way more done in a shorter period of time.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:23 am to
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I’m not the one calling people names


But you cant understand a single word I typed.


Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:23 am to
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Contract, correct?


Yes, usually 3 months. Much more flexibility as hourly worker compared to being on Salary at a Hospital that requires 40 hours a week. The exact opposite of what SFP is claiming
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:25 am to
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Yes, usually 3 months. Much more flexibility as hourly worker compared to being on Salary at a Hospital that requires 40 hours a week.



Exactly.

It would give these WFH baws all the freedom they want

Do you know what it doent give them though? Status. Thats what this is all about

Retards value faux status over compensation most of the time. Thats why its easier to give new titles than actual raises to young folks.
Posted by John Barron
The Mar-a-Lago Club
Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:26 am to
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That sad part is his poor upbringing should be his biggest plus. The ability to live in and understand both worlds. But hes too fricking narcissistic and stubborn to realize it


I don't know his history. Did he confess this to the forum or something? Would explain alot of his behavior
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476287 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:26 am to
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Much more flexibility as hourly worker compared to being on Salary at a Hospital that requires 40 hours a week. The exact opposite of what SFP is claiming


Where did I discuss the comparable flexibility of being a contractor versus being an employee, and state the employee had more?
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:26 am to
For once in my life I absolutely agree with SFP

Barron and Roger (sorry buddy) are completely off base.

Nothing that SFP is describing about standard salaried jobs is wrong. Sure unique scenarios exist, but by large what he is saying is correct.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476287 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:27 am to
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Its definitely something deep rooted in him. This has nothing to do with salary/hourly workers.


It literally has everything to do with productivity and efficiency. I even posted what led to the light bulb coming on (which was published long after my childhood )

quote:

It has to do with fraud and theft from your employer.

Your framing is still illogical and irrational.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:27 am to
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I don't know his history. Did he confess this to the forum or something? Would explain alot of his behavior


He says he was raised in a poor home. I have zero understanding of how tht makes him so insecure.

It should make him MORE secure. But something is wrong with him.

Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:27 am to
I’m not reading 28 pages but I’ve been working from home for almost a decade now and I won’t accept another job in my filed in an office. Completely unnecessary. During an average day I have to work with people in each time sone across the US. Being chained to an office would cost my employer unnecessary overhead. I also know my company will not be forcing people back in offices. They are actually shutting down many locations and moving to WFH to save.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:28 am to
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Where did I discuss the comparable flexibility of being a contractor versus being an employee, and state the employee had more?


What's funny is most contractors i know have to go work in the office and have less teleworking options presented to them.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476287 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:29 am to
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What's funny is most contractors i know have to go work in the office and have less teleworking options presented to them.


You must have missed they're now focusing on psychologically analyzing me
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476287 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:29 am to
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EZE Tiger Fan


If y'all have any questions about what I am like IRL, EZE has met me
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298383 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:31 am to
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Your way is assuming all employees need to be working together


Only if you dont read any of my posts here.

I've clearly otherwise.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15279 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:33 am to
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You must have missed they're now focusing on psychologically analyzing me


Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61413 posts
Posted on 11/19/24 at 9:35 am to
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I wonder how much Musk works in the office on a weekly basis?
WHy, he has no work tasks that require it, if the people he is referencing want to stay at home and pay a secretary to go in and do the work that is needed , they can...that is what he does. If not, they should get their arse to work and take care of their job responsibilities. Everyone has noticed a drop off in service levels for customer service since this started.
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