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re: Elon Musk says WFH is morally wrong

Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:45 pm to
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John Barron

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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:48 pm to
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These WFH fraudsters are outing themselves


It's more than just work from "home"

This was my "office" view a few weeks ago



Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:49 pm to
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These WFH fraudsters are outing themselves



I don't think this is quite the gotcha that you're trying to pretend it is


And why you're drowning in this argument you missed out on Eric tweeting Shapiro said the vote count should stop based on the rule of law and the Supreme Court was right in Pennsylvania


Which proves I was right about your hysterical woman theatrics were unnecessary

Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:49 pm to
Are you 1099’d and receive a physical check in 2024?
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:49 pm to
All the people who control the World are telling you WFH is ending. Just like that RT fraudster that got fired, your day is coming

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Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:49 pm to
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Ok is your contention


I have two contentions.

1. We have no significant percentage of quality workers in government positions. No matter where they work.

2. There is no way anyone is as productive at home as they are in an office.

The fact that y'all will not admit this and fight so hard to deny the obvious about it proves what I'm claiming.

If there is no difference either way, then why is it so important for ya'll to argue for working from home?

You KNOW why. So do I.

You get to screw around and do whatever you want half the day. If that's not it, then what? And how in the hell can you be as productive doing that as you would be at work? Obviously you can't.

Again, I understand there's no making y'all admit it, but understand that everyone knows the truth here. Just like any pot smoker who will argue for days that he's a better driver when he's stoned b/c "I drive more carefully."

Y'all are just like that.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:50 pm to
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John Barron

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Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13380 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:51 pm to
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Doing all of your work isn't being accountable?


I already explained this to you, "genius."

Am I really going to have to do so again?

What kind of genius can't understand concepts this simple?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476295 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:51 pm to
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Are you 1099’d


Based on his posts ITT, likely, or he's part of a small group. The medical field is filled with 1099 contractors...and they're almost all hourly.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:52 pm to
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Y'all are just like that.


100%. They are telling on themselves
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476295 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:52 pm to
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I already explained this to you, "genius."

No, you didn't.

You tried to ignore that and turn the factual scenario into some weird hypothetical where efficient workers get punished for their efficiency.

But you never explained why doing all of your work isn't being accountable.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75038 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:52 pm to
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John Barron

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Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15279 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:54 pm to
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We have no significant percentage of quality workers in government positions. No matter where they work.


Define significant (I agree the government has alot of shitty workers mainly in agencies that really shouldn't exist, but also in some that should exist).

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There is no way anyone is as productive at home as they are in an office.


Well that's just like an opinion man.

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The fact that y'all will not admit this and fight so hard to deny the obvious about it proves what I'm claiming.



you obviously do a job that requires you to be in the office to be productive. That's OK though some people be like that.

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You get to screw around and do whatever you want half the day. If that's not it, then what? And how in the hell can you be as productive doing that as you would be at work? Obviously you can't.


Tell me you were supervised by a micromanager or are a micromanager.

Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:56 pm to
This board has a jealousy complex.

I work in excel and PowerPoint and then travel to meet customers. There’s zero fricking reason for me to go to “the office.”

I’m sorry you have a job that doesn’t allow this, but you can eat a dick. My team is infinitely more productive working this way than traveling to an office and sitting a desk there.
This post was edited on 11/18/24 at 7:57 pm
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:58 pm to
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There is no way anyone is as productive at home as they are in an office.


This statement is asinine. I’m sorry you work with retards. Hire better people.
Posted by John Barron
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Member since Sep 2024
17101 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Based on his posts ITT, likely, or he's part of a small group. The medical field is filled with 1099 contractors...and they're almost all hourly.


Everyone who works for a Hospital is W2. Even as a travel Nurse in California working for a Agency I was a W2. I did get a tax free housing check for 4k a month
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75038 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:59 pm to
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John Barron

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Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13380 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 7:59 pm to
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Your question has a major assumption issue (that people in offices don't have inefficiencies to deal with)


No it doesn't, Newton.

The assumption is that the inefficiencies are (much) better addressed when someone knows what people are doing. And no, that doesn't require "micromanagement."

If you leave the office from 10-2 every day, someone is eventually going to notice. It doesn't require "micromanagement" to see that.

But if you're at home, no one knows.

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Why are we assigning the efficient workers more work in your hypothetical?


No one said that, Einstein. (I started to explain it, but I'm going to rely on your intellectual genius to read it again and figure it out for yourself. It's not hard.). I will give you a hint, though, in the form of this question: How much more of your legitimate work could you do every day if you weren't posting here like you do? I know it's after work hours now, but you post here plenty during regular work hours. So do I, but I'm retired.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13380 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:01 pm to
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But you never explained why doing all of your work isn't being accountable.


Yes I did.

I guess you'll need to read it a third time.
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15279 posts
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:02 pm to
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If you leave the office from 10-2 every day, someone is eventually going to notice. It doesn't require "micromanagement" to see that.


If you are salary this doesn't matter as long as you get results on time.

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