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re: Elon Musk announces he is suing Jamaal Bowman for calling him a thief and Nazi on CNN
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:12 am to UncleFestersLegs
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:12 am to UncleFestersLegs
Don’t bother with him. He’s still bitter from the thrashing he took on here almost a decade ago. It’s sad.
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Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:12 am to shinerfan
quote:quite right. If we get past the mudslinging, it's a good conversation to have
Wow! Cubbies raised a relevant point.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:13 am to shinerfan
It’s actually not a relevant point. Defamation / slander / libel are not limited causes of action to public figures. She tried though.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:13 am to NIH
quote:
thrashing he took on here almost a decade ago
Keep talking, and I'm sending Elon Washington Duke after you.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:13 am to Flats
The other restaurant should start s flyer war. Lie back at them with flyers. There's your free speech, with lots of added choas... 
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:14 am to NIH
quote:
NIH
Look at you, lost in the conversation. Again.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:14 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:surely you don't suggest the inherent nature of the 1st doesn't apply to newspapers
I'm a big fan of natural rights.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:14 am to NIH
quote:its a higher threshold for public figures no?
Defamation / slander / libel are not limited causes of action to public figures.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:15 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
surely you don't suggest the inherent nature of the 1st doesn't apply to newspapers
Not in the same way that it applies to individuals. You believe it does?
Edit:
I also specifically referenced our natural rights.
This post was edited on 3/22/25 at 9:16 am
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:15 am to UncleFestersLegs
Higher threshold by proving actual malice
I’d imagine Jamal’s deposition will be interesting on that point
I’d imagine Jamal’s deposition will be interesting on that point
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:16 am to stout
All this hateful rhetoric is the same as what led to the 2 assassination attempts on Trump.
Elon needs to go after all the media and politicians the same.
Elon needs to go after all the media and politicians the same.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:18 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I've never considered that a media outlet had less inherent free speech protection. It literally uses the word press
Not in the same way that it applies to individuals. You believe it does?
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:19 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:well the BofR is a recognition of inherent, natural rights
Edit:
I also specifically referenced our natural rights.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:19 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
I've never considered that a media outlet had less inherent free speech protection. It literally uses the word press
Those rights aren't granted to anyone by the First Amendment.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:20 am to stout
Democrats are good at projection.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:21 am to PaulDrake
quote:yeah that's a convenient cudgel to wield and I'm as guilty as anyone but I still believe I can call you an a-hole and not be blamed if someone takes a swing at you.
All this hateful rhetoric is the same as what led to the 2 assassination attempts on Trump.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:21 am to UncleFestersLegs
quote:
well the BofR is a recognition of inherent, natural rights
It's a restriction on the government. Freedom of speech exists independent of the Bill of Rights.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:22 am to 4cubbies
quote:
If someone thinks you are racist, you winning a lawsuit isn’t going to get them to change their minds.
You are missing the entire point.
Today someone can call you a racist and then work to having your job taken from you. That is what I was up against. My livelihood and integrity at the time was up in the air. All because I did something a black person before me failed to do. I did nothing wrong yet I was put through hell, and had to waste a few thousand getting a lawyer in case it escalated.
In the case of the OP, you have people falsely accusing someone of something similar, then leveraging this to attack not only this guy's businesses across the country, but now his customers as well. The effects are far reaching compared to just one person at a random job.
The fact that people can't see this is what scares me as a rational person.
quote:
have no idea what the situation you are referencing is about and I’ve never thought you were racist
Also my point. No, I'm not and never was "racist", but that didn't matter. The accusation is all it took to turn my life upside down for a year. If I had the financil means to really fight, I would have, but I didn't. I enjoy seeing those that have the means fight back. Until it happens to you or someone you care about, I fully expect you to applaud it because it happened to someone you hate.
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:i never used that word i don't think
Those rights aren't granted
Posted on 3/22/25 at 9:22 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:i agree
It's a restriction on the government. Freedom of speech exists independent of the Bill of Rights.
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