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re: Electoral College
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:10 am to Globetrotter747
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:10 am to Globetrotter747
quote:
Do you think the EC is necessary
Yes.
It was put into place to keep things even in representation in the WH. If you by popular vote, Cali has 40 MILLION people there out of the 325 million in the USA.
If you go to popular vote, everything in cali is forced on the nation.
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:14 am to tigeraddict
quote:
so what happens to this discussion when a dem wins the EC but doesnt have the pop vote.....
you know the rules going into the game.
I certainly won't try to change the rules after they didn't work out for me.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:21 am to Globetrotter747
Okay let me ask you this. Should the Christians in America be shot on the spot, or should they be herded together and marched into the ocean en masse. Stupid question...right? But no more stupid than your question. Take time to read the Federalist Papers and the U.S.Constitution before you peddle this crap.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:22 am to Globetrotter747
Absolutely, otherwise the the coasts decide every presidential election.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:23 am to Globetrotter747
quote:
Do you think the EC is necessary or do you think presidential elections should be decided by popular vote?
Of course it is necessary.
Without it California and New York would decide every election.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:28 am to Loserman
quote:For that reason, it is good policy. I agree.quote:Of course it is necessary. Without it California and New York would decide every election.
Do you think the EC is necessary or do you think presidential elections should be decided by popular vote?
But that is not the same as “necessary.”
Early in the thread I said
quote:And that post has received unanimous downvotes. The EC has just become another kneejerk issue, with one side reacting like spoiled children when discussion of the issue is even raised. The epithets hurled at the OP for daring to ask a question? They constitute Exhibit One.
(The EC) does continue to serve a valid purpose (federalism), and I certainly would not discard it.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 8:37 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:29 am to Globetrotter747
If eliminated NY, California, and FL will decide the elections. The rest of America will be meaningless at the polls.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:44 am to PorkSammich
quote:
If eliminated NY, California, and FL will decide the elections. The rest of America will be meaningless at the polls.
Well, if you live in a solid red or blue state and intend to vote differently from the majority of your state you might feel that your vote is meaningless.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:47 am to Globetrotter747
No I think we should have mob rule and if the Democrats still lose import millions of more poor brown voters for an entire new underclass so we can implement true Marxism.
Is that the right answer???
Is that the right answer???
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:51 am to PorkSammich
quote:Each of those (large) states ALSO has more GOP voters than the vast majority of Red states. In fact, it would not surprise me if all three have more than any Red state other than Texas.
If eliminated NY, California, and FL will decide the elections. The rest of America will be meaningless at the polls.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 8:54 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 8:57 am to Chimlim
quote:
No one had a problem with this before November 2000
FIFY
probably Bush v Gore was the start of it
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:01 am to Globetrotter747
Yes, it's necessary. Have you actually studied the founding of this country?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:07 am to Globetrotter747
Are you really as stupid as you sound? The OP, ladies and gentlemen, is what you get when they don’t teach history and civics anymore, and you have sniveling liberal globalist indoctrination turning our children’s brains to mush.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:09 am to Globetrotter747
Do y'all think the military is necessary, I mean maybe back when England was ruling over us and all, but now?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:20 am to Jjdoc
quote:In fairness, there's a shite ton of people who stay home in CA and don't vote because it's a stacked deck against them. This could greatly increase turnout.
It was put into place to keep things even in representation in the WH. If you by popular vote, Cali has 40 MILLION people there out of the 325 million in the USA.
If you go to popular vote, everything in cali is forced on the nation.
Also, while we're at it, give every state a single three-day early voting period to vote, in-person (except in cases where you are abroad), and make it a one-day national holiday on election day. That's it.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:22 am to AggieHank86
quote:Nope. We’re far more urbanized, and population more concentrated now. If anything, the equal representation component should be higher now. Not lower. Certainly not nil.
Necessary? Back in 1789, yes. The smaller states would not have ratified without it.
Today, the system is hardly “necessary,” but it does continue to serve a valid purpose (federalism), and I certainly would not discard it.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:26 am to AggieHank86
quote:
And that post has received unanimous downvotes.
Your lack of self awareness is astounding.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:27 am to Globetrotter747
Do you think that the group think present in Los Angeles and NYC should determine the direction of the ENTIRE country?
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:29 am to HubbaBubba
quote:
In fairness, there's a shite ton of people who stay home in CA and don't vote because it's a stacked deck against them. This could greatly increase turnout.
So would apportioning electoral votes based on congressional districts/percentage of population without disbanding the electoral college.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:32 am to Taxing Authority
quote:Again, a strong argument as to why the EC continues to be "good policy," with which I agree.quote:Nope. We’re far more urbanized, and population more concentrated now. If anything, the equal representation component should be higher now. Not lower. Certainly not nil.
Necessary? Back in 1789, yes. The smaller states would not have ratified without it.
Today, the system is hardly “necessary,” but it does continue to serve a valid purpose (federalism), and I certainly would not discard it.
I am still waiting for someone to explain why it is "necessary."
Will the nation cease to exist, if the EC is discarded? Much like the nation ceased to exist when we moved to direct election of Senators?
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