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re: Election stolen in France.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:10 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:10 pm to Indefatigable
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Only very dumb Americans whose entire exposure to European elections comes from random blue checks didn’t see this coming. RN never had a real path to a majority this election.
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Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:11 pm to oldhickory1812
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Not nearly as naive as someone who thinks 30% of the vote should win an election.
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the people voting and gaining a majority of the vote, should win and get control of their government
Are you confused what "majority" means?
Reminder, in this discussion tree, you negatively commented on this post:
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It also allows constituencies to actually elect a representative with 50% + 1 of the vote.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Are you confused what "majority" means?
Majority of the people engaged on the political process, it seems pretty clear to me.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:14 pm to Indefatigable
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The center and left parties dropped out of the runoffs to allow this to happen. It’s tactical voting, not stealing.
A candidate making a deal with an opposing party to drop out is rigging an election no matter how you spin it. It's antithetical to the principles of "democracy."
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:20 pm to oldhickory1812
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If the the people of a country choose to not participate, it is their own deal, the people voting and gaining a majority of the vote, should win and get control of their government, a one round vote should be the universal way to declare a winner.
This doesn’t make any sense in the context of this conversation. They have more than two parties. The large majority of French who voted in round one didn’t vote for the winner in their respective constituency.
Advocating for plurality elections is bizarre to me.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:21 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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A candidate making a deal with an opposing party to drop out is rigging an election no matter how you spin it
No, it isn’t. You don’t like the result, but it isn’t “rigging”.
Coalitions have been a part of democracy for its entire existence as a system of government.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:22 pm to BCreed1
The Leader of the French Popular Front, Jean-Luc Mélenchon, PROMISES that Arabic will become an OFFICIAL language in France
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:23 pm to Indefatigable
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This doesn’t make any sense in the context of this conversation. They have more than two parties. The large majority of French who voted in round one didn’t vote for the winner in their respective constituency.
Advocating for plurality elections is bizarre to me.
You either believe in elections, or you don't, one shot and you accept the results, any thing beyond that, is manipulation.
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:25 pm to oldhickory1812
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't, one shot and you accept the results
According to who? The French have two-round elections.
You realize that Louisiana has/had this too, right?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:26 pm to Indefatigable
it is my contention, that one shot elections are the best ones.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:27 pm to oldhickory1812
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Majority of the people engaged on the political process, i
Which party in this discussion obtained a majority?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:27 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
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A candidate making a deal with an opposing party to drop out is rigging an election no matter how you spin it.
Standard operating procedure in Parliamentary systems
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Standard operating procedure in Parliamentary systems
It is a shitty system
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:29 pm to oldhickory1812
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it is my contention, that one shot elections are the best ones.
So you don't want the representatives forming a republic to represent the majority of voters?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:30 pm to oldhickory1812
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It is a shitty system
You're advocating for a plurality to rule without a coalition to get a majority in the voting house.
How would your ideal system work?
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Which party in this discussion obtained a majority?
National Rally (Le Pen's Party)
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:33 pm to BCreed1
America had its last election blatantly stolen in the middle of the night and will have the next one stolen even more blatantly
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:33 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Le pen is far right but fricking communists are far left.
I'm gonna need you to put the comma in there for clarity's sake.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:36 pm to oldhickory1812
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National Rally (Le Pen's Party)
When?
They got 33% the first round and about the same this time.
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jean-Luc Mélenchon announces that a left-wing government in France will promptly recognize the State of Palestine.
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