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re: EBR schools audit- 'troubling' discrepancies in district's academic record
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:41 am to LSURussian
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:41 am to LSURussian
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I haven't heard of any solutions from LSURussian,
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Then you have not been keeping up. I've listed what I would like to see done many times.
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I haven't heard of any solutions from LSURussian,
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Then you have not been keeping up. I've listed what I would like to see done many times.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:41 am to doubleb
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I doubt Taylor is the blame, he's taken over a corrupt system, and he has to deal with things as he found them; however, he is quickly proving to me that instead of being part of a long term solution, he is just part of the overall problem.
My take is he is weak. That's fine. There is a place for him in this world, maybe even as a school superintendent somewhere. But not in a system with so much at stake for the community at large. He has shown himself to be in over his head. It is time for some real leadership. Of course that is generally lacking in our public officials in LA so I don't know why I would expect anything different in this case.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:42 am to LSU2NO
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I haven't heard of any solutions from LSURussian,
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There you go. Seriously, would you like accountabilty of the EBRSS, or John White or Bernard Taylor.
I haven't heard of any solutions from LSURussian,
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Then you have not been keeping up. I've listed what I would like to see done many times.
There you go. Seriously, would you like accountabilty of the EBRSS, or John White or Bernard Taylor.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 10:46 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:46 am to LSURussian
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My dad can't beat up your dad. My dad died not long ago.
I'm sorry to hear that. My dad is still with us, but mom isn't.
It's tough when you lose a parent. I hope you know I was joking.
But you know you lose a lot of credibility when you call people names. Look through this thread and anyone who challenges you is an idiot, a liar, or doesn't belong in the thread.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:48 am to BR Tiger
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My take is he is weak. That's fine. There is a place for him in this world, maybe even as a school superintendent somewhere. But not in a system with so much at stake for the community at large. He has shown himself to be in over his head. It is time for some real leadership. Of course that is generally lacking in our public officials in LA so I don't know why I would expect anything different in this case
I believe the powers that be hired a puppet. It appears they got one. I hope I'm wrong, you are spot on. We need a real leader, an outsider, and someone who is for the kids and not the status quo.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:49 am to BR Tiger
The audit only show a portion, a random sample of the students in each school. Imagine if the whole school of the ones in question where looked into deeper, McKinley, Glen Oaks. There would be more discrepancies uncovered, don't you think?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:07 am to LSU2NO
quote:I would like accountability of all of the above.
Seriously, would you like accountabilty of the EBRSS, or John White or Bernard Taylor.
John White has proven to be Jindal shill. I hope you realize that. His decisions have been very suspect and always tow the Jindal line to help Jindal get elected to higher office.
One nice thing about John White is if you don't like a decision he's made, just wait a few months. He'll probably change it based on opinion polls for his boss.
quote:I'm not going to repeat what I've already written many times just because someone new enters a SG thread.
There you go.
You can use the search function and find my somewhat lengthy wish list for what I'd like citizens to do to improve the education system.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:49 am to LSU2NO
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The audit only show a portion, a random sample of the students in each school. Imagine if the whole school of the ones in question where looked into deeper, McKinley, Glen Oaks. There would be more discrepancies uncovered, don't you think?
25% of the sample was found to be in error.
So you are correct, do not focus on the number of errors because not all the student records were reviewed.
You can assume that at some schools BRHS Magnet, Woodlawn and Arlington that their record keeping was fine as no errors were found, but the others combined had a 25% error rate so the level of mistakes, malfeasance, or downright corruption (or whatever you want to classify it as) is really big at the remainder of the schools.
You can not focus on a few finite numbers.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 11:57 am to LSURussian
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John White has proven to be Jindal shill. I hope you realize that. His decisions have been very suspect and always tow the Jindal line to help Jindal get elected to higher office. One nice thing about John White is if you don't like a decision he's made, just wait a few months. He'll probably change it based on opinion polls for his boss.
So anything White says should be ignored?
I feel a whole lot better now. I'll trust Pat Smith and Taylor who told us early all that it was all started by sneaky SG folk and that everything is in order.
Yea, that Bodi White is sure working overtime now. Besides stealing money, he's falsifying records too. He should be ashamed of himself.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 12:59 pm to doubleb
quote:This is another example of you lying. You take something I've written and completely distort it into a lie.
So anything White says should be ignored?
This is one of the reasons I have attempted to ignore your posts. You just don't have any integrity. I'll try harder to ignore your posts in the future.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:09 pm to LSURussian
You whiny little bitch. You should truly just STFU.
If anyone lacks credibility or integrity it is you and your little race card you pulled in the very beginning of the St. George debate. It really is time for you to go play with yourself and let the adults in the room talk.
If anyone lacks credibility or integrity it is you and your little race card you pulled in the very beginning of the St. George debate. It really is time for you to go play with yourself and let the adults in the room talk.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:17 pm to LSURussian
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OH, yeah, I'm a liberal alright. Know how I know you're clueless???
I didn't say you were a liberal, I said the tactics you use are straight out of the liberal playbook. Stop your lying you liar.
See how that works.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 1:19 pm to russinbr
quote:I sense that you're upset....
You whiny little bitch.
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let the adults in the room talk.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 2:00 pm to LSURussian
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This is another example of you lying. You take something I've written and completely distort it into a lie. This is one of the reasons I have attempted to ignore your posts. You just don't have any integrity. I'll try harder to ignore your posts in the future.
I was obviously being sarcastic there because you refuse to address the actual report and you are obviously trying to tarnish it by blaming those directly and indirectly responsible for the errors found.
What you are ignoring is the report.
Instead you are trying to make the report personal by bringing personalities like John White into the discussion when the discussion should be about the facts and not about John White, Taylor, Smith or what Bodi White says.
The audit was a Dept. of Education audit.
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...in the state Department of Education’s audit of the East Baton Rouge Parish School system’s academic records
The audit was instigated by a whistleblower...
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The audit began in January, after a whistleblower brought a number of concerns to state education officials. Among them was an allegation that a student had been allowed to graduate without meeting requirements. The whistleblower also claimed there was a lack of oversight and cheating in online courses. NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune was first to report that the state was going to conduct an audit.
You have reported on this board that the overall grades for the EBR System have been improving. The report calls the grades into question.
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The discrepancies are particularly significant because at least some of the records discussed in the audit count toward the school's accountability rankings. The state’s A-F school performance scores given for high schools place a major emphasis on graduation rates, which make up 25 percent of a high school’s grade.
But you aren't alone in trying to spin this audit as if it were nothing but a political witch hunt. Here is what some of your anti SG "allies" have to say;
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Belinda Davis, president of the parent and community group One Community, One School District, called the incident a “politically manufactured stunt.” Rep. Pat Smith, D-Baton Rouge, blamed it on the supporters of the effort to incorporate the city of St. George and form a new school district in the south part of the parish.
But I'm not about name calling, and trying to divert the attention away from the real problem; here is what happened:
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In total, White said the department reviewed records for 362 students. A total of 25 percent of those records had “major errors,” the audit found.
The problems included students who were awarded credits in the state’s transcript system that were different from what was recorded by the school, as well as students who had different grades recorded in the state system. White said that in all of those cases, the grades were higher in the state system than they were at the district level.
“This erroneous record keeping appears to result from a negligent lack of internal controls and oversight at the central office, and in some cases, falsification at the school level,” the audit summary states.
I suggest we quit the name calling and address the issues here. We both pay taxes in EBR Parish to the school system. We pay sales taxes and property taxes.
The difference is you want to stay in the system, while I want to be out of the system. Give me a good reason that this audit and the subsequent findings isn't a condemnation of the system and justification for first Baker, then Zachary, then Central and now SG to want out.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 2:51 pm to doubleb
I suggest we quit the name calling and address the issues here. We both pay taxes in EBR Parish to the school system. We pay sales taxes and property taxes.
Well said doubleb. All I can add is give me good factual reasons and be completely objective.
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The difference is you want to stay in the system, while I want to be out of the system. Give me a good reason that this audit and the subsequent findings isn't a condemnation of the system and justification for first Baker, then Zachary, then Central and now SG to want out.
Well said doubleb. All I can add is give me good factual reasons and be completely objective.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:02 pm to dewster
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Oh that's good!
How about this one from the farkers. Could it be one of our most avid posters in action?
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:06 pm to doubleb
doubleb
Excellent post. Well said!!!
Excellent post. Well said!!!
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:13 pm to LSURussian
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You have disagreed with me numerous times in SG threads. That's why I called you a liar.
FIFY
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You have reported on this board that the overall grades for the EBR System have been improving. The report calls the grades into question.
This definitely implications for the grades assigned to those schools. I'm looking forward to seeing what "improvements" and safeguards they'll come up with by April 4th. They have incentive to lie in some cases, and it happens more often across the country than it should.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:09 pm to dewster
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But worst of all, the auditors then looked at 221 records of students to review graduation rates reported by the EBR system. Some 82 percent of those records were fraudulent. The auditors pulled 147 records of students who purportedly transferred to schools outside the state or outside the country. They were able to substantiate 16 of those records; the other 89 percent reflect kids who actually dropped out of school. The auditors also pulled 54 records of kids who supposedly transferred to private schools, and were able to substantiate only eight of them. The other 85 percent were dropouts.
This post is full of factual information pulled from the report and how ANYONE can defend the system is beyond me. How anyone would not support parents who wanted to get their kids the frick out is beyond me.
Grades were changed, credits conferred, and over and over, reporting statistics involving the tracking of students no longer in the system was found to be reported in the system's favor to make metrics they are measured by better. Every. Single. Time.
Graduation rates were repeatedly manipulated by the system in the system's favor. Over and over and over again.
Anyone who worries about TAXES and then says BILLION DOLLAR TAXER Kip Holden is better than Bodi White is beyond me.
You know who you are, and we all know what the facts and reality are now.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 3/19/14 at 12:12 pm to GFunk
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