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Posted on 3/18/14 at 6:43 am to LSURussian
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Your hysteria, doom and gloom, everything is shite in Baton Rouge agenda is obvious.
I'm wondering why you didn't quote the following from your link:
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Still, only 27, or about 7 percent, involved a mismatch between the grades or credits given by the teacher and those later reported to the state.
McKinley High School had the most problems. The school accounted for 11 of the 27 students whose grades or credits did not match those in a state transcript database.
Glen Oaks High also had many problems. It did its own review of the Class of 2013 and found six recent graduates who lacked the necessary credits to graduate... A school counselor new to Glen Oaks first flagged the problem on Sept. 27. ... the school system reported the problem to the state in the fall soon after it came to light and had reassigned employees who were at fault.
.... 13 of 15 schools had no or only “minor inconsistencies.”
And there it is. I knew you would eventually downplay this. Your tactics regarding this and SG are straight out of the liberal playbook.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 7:58 am to dewster
quote:I read the article in the Morning Advocate LINK, and the one thing nobody mentioned was the children shortchanged by the issues addressed in the audit report. All the adults were concerned about was protecting the adults involved and avoiding accountability. Not a single person expressed shock that the problems could have existed, and that they would seek improvements to prevent recurrences. That must be quite reassuring to the parents of children residing in the proposed St. George.
I won't expect any real change or accountability from EBR public schools. In fact they'll probably continue to deny and downplay this.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:15 am to Poodlebrain
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“I thought it was a witch hunt from the beginning,” said Carolyn Hill, a member of the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education who also met Monday with White.
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“In urban areas where you have a large number of children who move in and out, you are going to find similar issues and they need to be looked at statewide rather than just looking at one district,” Smith said.
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Taylor reiterated that Monday morning in a talk with the Baton Rouge Area Association of Black Journalists.
“There is nothing in that report that speaks of malfeasance or people cooking the books,” Taylor said. “What we’re talking about is human error.”
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Hill said she’s puzzled as to why the complaint about this graduate would generate so much scrutiny.
“I can’t tell you how many complaints I’ve seen about things happening in Orleans Parish,” she said. “None of them have gotten to that level (of state investigation).”
Got to love how they accept responsibility.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:43 am to sec13rowBBseat28
re: EBR schools audit- 'troubling' discrepancies in district's academic record (Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:15 am to Poodlebrain)
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“I thought it was a witch hunt from the beginning,” said Carolyn Hill, a member of the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education who also met Monday with White.
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Taylor reiterated that Monday morning in a talk with the Baton Rouge Area Association of Black Journalists.
“There is nothing in that report that speaks of malfeasance or people cooking the books,” Taylor said. “What we’re talking about is human error.”
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Hill said she’s puzzled as to why the complaint about this graduate would generate so much scrutiny.
“I can’t tell you how many complaints I’ve seen about things happening in Orleans Parish,” she said. “None of them have gotten to that level (of state investigation).”
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That is what is so infuriating, the refusal to accept the truth that maybe, just maybe they were not diligent enough and maybe they made some errors. And own up to their shortcomings and strive to correct the problems.
The fact that the people who are accountable for our children's education and future livihood are more worried about themselves than their students. There is no justification for promoting a student past a grade he hasn't achieved, or graduating a student without the necessary skills needed for life. To do so is a failing on the teachers, administrators, and school system. That is why the people of St. George wants to set up their own scool system just like Central, Baker and Zachary.
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“I thought it was a witch hunt from the beginning,” said Carolyn Hill, a member of the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education who also met Monday with White.
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Taylor reiterated that Monday morning in a talk with the Baton Rouge Area Association of Black Journalists.
“There is nothing in that report that speaks of malfeasance or people cooking the books,” Taylor said. “What we’re talking about is human error.”
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Hill said she’s puzzled as to why the complaint about this graduate would generate so much scrutiny.
“I can’t tell you how many complaints I’ve seen about things happening in Orleans Parish,” she said. “None of them have gotten to that level (of state investigation).”
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Got to love how they accept responsibility.
That is what is so infuriating, the refusal to accept the truth that maybe, just maybe they were not diligent enough and maybe they made some errors. And own up to their shortcomings and strive to correct the problems.
The fact that the people who are accountable for our children's education and future livihood are more worried about themselves than their students. There is no justification for promoting a student past a grade he hasn't achieved, or graduating a student without the necessary skills needed for life. To do so is a failing on the teachers, administrators, and school system. That is why the people of St. George wants to set up their own scool system just like Central, Baker and Zachary.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:43 am to LSU2NO
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That is what is so infuriating, the refusal to accept the truth that maybe, just maybe they were not diligent enough and maybe they made some errors. And own up to their shortcomings and strive to correct the problems.
I agree but it's true that there's angles to this.
Tea partiers targeted and audited by the IRS should just accept the truth that maybe they made some errors. doesn't make their point about being targeted any less intriguing.
But yeah, I'm glad they got audited. It's just too bad that the state uses selective investigation as a political tool to punish political enemies while giving allies a free pass. Let's face it. The administrators of John White's recovery school districts are the most incompetent and yet highly paid in the state. They hire connected people straight out of high school to do administrative work for double what experienced folks would make elsewhere in the state and have no concept of how to do their jobs. I think at one point they were declaring holidays that didn't exist, then showing up for work to make double time. You'll hear nothing but praise from the state.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 9:49 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 9:43 am to sec13rowBBseat28
quote:OH, yeah, I'm a liberal alright. Know how I know you're clueless???
And there it is. I knew you would eventually downplay this. Your tactics regarding this and SG are straight out of the liberal playbook.
I wasn't downplaying anything. I quoted directly from the link already provided. Everyone was in hysterics that the entire school system was covering up the incorrect data. It turns out only two schools, Glen Oaks and McKinley HS, were responsible for the vast majority of the incorrect data being reported. And 13 of the 15 schools audited showed "no or minor" errors in the records.
That's not indicative of a systemic problem.
And one of those schools with the majority of errors, Glen Oaks, self-reported the data discrepancy when a new person took over the record-keeping function at that school last September which was then reported to the State Dept of Education almost immediately.
Yet Bodi White yesterday bloviates that the new superintendent's plan for improving schools is to institute cheating, ignoring the fact the new superintendent is the one who reported the grade discrepancies to the state. And the superintendent was not even employed in EBR for the first two years the audit covered.
That proves again that White is a lying POS.
It's also becoming very evident that almost all persons associated with the SG effort continually lie. Like you.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:00 am to LSURussian
Once again we see the same two guys running down others to protect the EBR schools system.
One guy runs down Bodi White the other John White.
There are numerous discrepancies at multiple schools and all of them gave children better than what they earned; no reports of children getting less than what they earned.
If it was human error wouldn't it be likely that some kids who earned a diploma were cheated out of a diploma? Why is it that all the errors were all in the same direction, "up"?
Bodi is a liar now and Pat Smith is what, Clara Barton? John White is all about getting EBR and Carolyn Hill is Mother Theresa.
The fact is allegations in January were that an EBR school board member's relative got a diploma they didn't earn. Subsequent findings were than many got diplomas they didn't deserve.
The defense now is the traditional one:
1) Everybody does it, investigate them too.
2) It was minimal, really only at one school.
3) Human error, everyone makes mistakes
4) Someone is out to get us.
5) All of the above.
One guy runs down Bodi White the other John White.
There are numerous discrepancies at multiple schools and all of them gave children better than what they earned; no reports of children getting less than what they earned.
If it was human error wouldn't it be likely that some kids who earned a diploma were cheated out of a diploma? Why is it that all the errors were all in the same direction, "up"?
Bodi is a liar now and Pat Smith is what, Clara Barton? John White is all about getting EBR and Carolyn Hill is Mother Theresa.
The fact is allegations in January were that an EBR school board member's relative got a diploma they didn't earn. Subsequent findings were than many got diplomas they didn't deserve.
The defense now is the traditional one:
1) Everybody does it, investigate them too.
2) It was minimal, really only at one school.
3) Human error, everyone makes mistakes
4) Someone is out to get us.
5) All of the above.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:04 am to doubleb
quote:Bodi White has always been a liar. Pat Smith also. You also.
Bodi is a liar now and Pat Smith is what, Clara Barton?
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 10:08 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:10 am to LSURussian
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Please quote from the article where that is written.
The problems included students who were awarded credits in the state’s transcript system that were different from what was recorded by the school, as well as students who had different grades recorded in the state system. White said that in all of those cases, the grades were higher in the state system than they were at the district level.
LINK
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Bodi White has always been a liar. Pat Smith also. You also.
And you're Honest John used car salesman
LOL, love the way you edit your post after you challenge someone and call them a liar because it was there in the report in black and white.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 10:11 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:17 am to doubleb
quote:I edited it prior to your reply if you notice the time on the edit. The reason I did so is because I went back and re-read the NOLA.com article after I asked you to quote from the article.
LOL, love the way you edit your post after you challenge someone and call them a liar because it was there in the report in black and white.
So I answered my own question, Sherlock. I didn't need you to provide the quote since I had already found it myself. Stop being such a conspiracy theorist.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:22 am to doubleb
(not directed to you, doubleb, your post just happened to be the last one)
Here's the only responses I would find acceptable from Taylor:
1. In light of recent findings, and to avoid further disruption to the EBRPSS and allow the system to move forward in a positive direction I am resigning effective immediately as superintendent. My hope is the board will endeavor to hire a superintendent who can unify the community in a way that I have been unable to during my tenure.
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2. The findings in the audit report are absolutely unacceptable for any school system. My staff will continue the investigation and where errors were made we will create new safeguards to ensure the errors cannot happen in the future. Where deliberate actions were taken to alter student academic or other records, the individuals responsible for such actions will no longer be employed by this school system. I have zero tolerance for any abuse of the offices our employees hold. School systems exist for one purpose- the effective education of students. From this day on I will focus my efforts on ensuring all students in the parish receive a quality education and are prepared to enter the world of employment or higher education.
Instead we get finger pointing and hurt feelings. And I know this isn't germane to the issues, but on a personal level I can't stand to hear Taylor talk. His inflection and delivery come across as whiny and petulant no matter what he is saying. While that doesn't affect the content of his communications, it certainly does affect my perception of him as a leader. (hint- it's not in a positive way, either)
Here's the only responses I would find acceptable from Taylor:
1. In light of recent findings, and to avoid further disruption to the EBRPSS and allow the system to move forward in a positive direction I am resigning effective immediately as superintendent. My hope is the board will endeavor to hire a superintendent who can unify the community in a way that I have been unable to during my tenure.
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2. The findings in the audit report are absolutely unacceptable for any school system. My staff will continue the investigation and where errors were made we will create new safeguards to ensure the errors cannot happen in the future. Where deliberate actions were taken to alter student academic or other records, the individuals responsible for such actions will no longer be employed by this school system. I have zero tolerance for any abuse of the offices our employees hold. School systems exist for one purpose- the effective education of students. From this day on I will focus my efforts on ensuring all students in the parish receive a quality education and are prepared to enter the world of employment or higher education.
Instead we get finger pointing and hurt feelings. And I know this isn't germane to the issues, but on a personal level I can't stand to hear Taylor talk. His inflection and delivery come across as whiny and petulant no matter what he is saying. While that doesn't affect the content of his communications, it certainly does affect my perception of him as a leader. (hint- it's not in a positive way, either)
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:22 am to LSURussian
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I edited it prior to your reply if you notice the time on the edit. The reason I did so is because I went back and re-read the NOLA.com article after I asked you to quote from the article. So I answered my own question, Sherlock. I didn't need you to provide the quote since I had already found it myself. Stop being such a conspiracy theorist.
You challenged what I posted, called me a liar, and now I'm a conspiracy theorist.
I think that warrants an apology, but I suspect I want get one. After all I'm just another idiot, and you are the one with all the facts.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:24 am to BR Tiger
quote:Amen!
I would find acceptable from Taylor:
The findings in the audit report are absolutely unacceptable for any school system. My staff will continue the investigation and where errors were made we will create new safeguards to ensure the errors cannot happen in the future. Where deliberate actions were taken to alter student academic or other records, the individuals responsible for such actions will no longer be employed by this school system. I have zero tolerance for any abuse of the offices our employees hold.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:25 am to doubleb
You have lied numerous times in SG threads. That's why I called you a liar.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:26 am to BR Tiger
BR, that is what you'd expect to see from a responsible leader.
I doubt Taylor is the blame, he's taken over a corrupt system, and he has to deal with things as he found them; however, he is quickly proving to me that instead of being part of a long term solution, he is just part of the overall problem.
The powers that be want the status quo. They want to keep their jobs. School administrators make big money. Their positions carry with them political power in their neighborhoods.
These people aren't giving up.
I doubt Taylor is the blame, he's taken over a corrupt system, and he has to deal with things as he found them; however, he is quickly proving to me that instead of being part of a long term solution, he is just part of the overall problem.
The powers that be want the status quo. They want to keep their jobs. School administrators make big money. Their positions carry with them political power in their neighborhoods.
These people aren't giving up.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:27 am to LSURussian
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You have lied numerous times in SG threads. That's why I called you a liar.
LOL
Next you are going to tell me that your daddy can beat up my daddy.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:37 am to doubleb
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And you're Honest John used car salesman
LOL, love the way you edit your post after you challenge someone and call them a liar because it was there in the report in black and white.
And that is the perfect analogy of LSURussian. Before he says "You can read my arguement a few pages back or you misquoted me", I have not been able to figure out what LSURussian stands for, just what he stands against.
FOR
?
a better school system
AGAINST
St. George
Bodi White
John White
I haven't heard of any solutions from LSURussian, just a lot of flim flam.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 10:41 am
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:40 am to LSU2NO
quote:Then you have not been keeping up. I've listed what I would like to see done many times.
I haven't heard of any solutions from LSURussian,
Posted on 3/18/14 at 10:41 am to doubleb
quote:My dad can't beat up your dad. My dad died not long ago.
Next you are going to tell me that your daddy can beat up my daddy.
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