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re: Don't trust the johnny come lately "the left left me" newcomers
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:18 am to prouddawg
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:18 am to prouddawg
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It’s not nearly as extreme as the left’s lunacy, or even close, but some of the religious issues merge to much with government, in my opinion.
Before your heads explode, I’m a Christian. We go to church, we teach the Bible, we pray, I send a child to church school ….key words being I/we … not the government.
i would imagine if we sat down and went policy for policy our opinions would likely fairly closely align
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Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:23 am to RFK
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It is up to us.
You are who he is talking about.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:23 am to LSUSkip
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No, if you're not completely on board, get off of the train and go back to the left
Wtf. So any deviation of thought and you want them to go back to the left? Free thought is out in your fantasy right wing? It’s free-thinking people from the left who got Trump elected. I hate when people say “You can’t pick and choose” when trying to get others to shut off their brains and blindly follow something (no matter if i agree or not.)
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:27 am to RFK
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1. Trump’s midnight pardons of 3 war criminals degraded trust among the military and our allies who count on us to uphold the law when times are tough.
Who?
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2. Their immovable stance on abortion when 60% of the country favors access to at least very-early abortion.
Newsflash. Abortion is the murder of children. There is no grey area. This is a hard line stance that every Republican should have. We don't accept infanticide because it's politically convenient.
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3. Trump’s SECDEF pick wants to essentially remove women from the military
From active combat roles. This is a good thing. Women do not possess the physical traits to be combat effective. GI Jane is a movie, not real life.
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or at least make them second class citizens.
Typical leftist trope.
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None of these have anything to do with true conservatism.
Correct, nothing you stated has anything to do with consevatism. It's your Democrat leftism creeping into your mind that thinks if the Republicans would just move more to the left, everything would be better.
We one the election, stop acting like a loser. Or, if you're a democrat, find a hobby to distract your mind so you can cope.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:29 am to RFK
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many “republicans” have fallen victim to extremeism in the past several years. We can’t let them take the party with them.
So you took a good hard look at both parties and this is what you came up with?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:29 am to Rick9Plus
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Wtf. So any deviation of thought and you want them to go back to the left? Free thought is out in your fantasy right wing? It’s free-thinking people from the left who got Trump elected. I hate when people say “You can’t pick and choose” when trying to get others to shut off their brains and blindly follow something (no matter if i agree or not.)
The issue isn't free thought. It's people who just recently came to our side maybe on one or two issues, and the right suddenly wants to elevate them as thought leaders for our side. I think it's fine to engage with them, and hopefully educate them on why their entire worldview is the issue. But they shouldn't immediately get a seat at the table, and considered to be one of "us" while still clinging to most of their old views.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:33 am to BugAC
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Correct, nothing you stated has anything to do with consevatism. It's your Democrat leftism creeping into your mind that thinks if the Republicans would just move more to the left, everything would be better.
We one the election, stop acting like a loser. Or, if you're a democrat, find a hobby to distract your mind so you can cope.
What we are seeing with these Cenk type revelations, is they see our side as where the sail winds are going, so they feel they need to merge with the right, but also attempting to reel the right back in as their way to continue pushing leftism. It's a clever slight of hand trick that many conservatives are easily duped into.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:35 am to burger bearcat
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The issue isn't free thought. It's people who just recently came to our side maybe on one or two issues, and the right suddenly wants to elevate them as thought leaders for our side. I think it's fine to engage with them, and hopefully educate them on why their entire worldview is the issue. But they shouldn't immediately get a seat at the table, and considered to be one of "us" while still clinging to most of their old views.
That makes sense, especially coming from someone who is staunchly right/republican. I am admittedly one of the Johnny-come-lately centrists. My fear is that either the extreme right or left will become too powerful, because imo both sides have fanatics with views i don’t like. I wish there were a third party, but in its absence, i hope both sides have people with the courage to smell bullshite and say “Ok, this has gone too far.”
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:42 am to burger bearcat
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:48 am to RFK
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While I had issues with Trump’s treatment of the military, spreading conspiracy theories
This is a weird statement. Trump’s "bad" treatment of the military was a conspiracy theory you fell for. It was perpetrated through the lies of the MSM and democrat politicians. You can't logically sit here and lament Trump’s "spreading of conspiracy theories" while you fully push one yourself.
You also argue that "extremists" have taken over the Republican party and cite abortion as an example. This is another example of faulty thinking. The Republican party has always been against abortion. The current policy is much more central than it has been in the past. It sounds like you just want unfettered abortion.
From reading your posts, you think not wanting to waste lives and money in foreign wars is an extreme position. Your opinion on what is extreme simply can't be trusted.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:52 am to Fat Bastard
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this false narrative needs to end
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Quit coping. He's definitely a center left liberal boomer feminist (just look at his cabinet). It's fine, I voted for him 3 times and had a Trump flag on my house. It's where the country is right now. But don't pretend otherwise. I'm hoping to extract as much juice out of the squeeze as possible and shift our politics further to the right, but I am not delusional about Trump being a staunch conservative.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 8:56 am
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:52 am to RFK
You seem retarded.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 8:59 am to RFK
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left left me" newcomers
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RFK
Yep
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We can’t let them
YOU ARE THEM!
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:07 am to burger bearcat
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Don't trust the johnny come lately "the left left me" newcomers
So, Elon.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:28 am to RFK
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Clinton was the last centrist
This is me politely asking you to disclose the contact information for your dealer. Been a couple decades since I had shrooms, but I think it's about time again.
Clinton was not a moderate, and the modern Overton window has lunged so far to the left that 1990s Clinton actually falls within the coverage of hardline conservatism on several issues.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:43 am to BayouBlitz
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So, Elon.
To a certain degree. However Elon seems to have had a real shift in his idealogy in a number of ways. He is not a full blown Bircher or anything, but he does appear to be somewhat genuine. Also, he has not attempted to insert leftism into the right sphere, we align on some issues with him, and he has been using his money and influence to push the issues and canidates that align with those shared beliefs. So because of that, I would place Elon in a different category than what was described in the OP.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:11 am to Rick9Plus
That's not really where I was going. I wasn't thinking about having different ideas, but rather being stuck with the old mindset and trying to bring it with you. Not being receptive to new ideas.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:12 am to burger bearcat
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I wouldn't want to interrupt anyone who stumbled upon a Redpill and may be on a path of truth finding and completely block them out.
But I've noticed that alot of times these people, let's call them LLMers (left left me) come in to right wing circles and immediately want to be the thought leaders, and poison the well with many of their other beliefs they still cling to.
They have not made it to the point in their journey yet, where they realized it was their entire idealogy and worldview that created the circumstances they are now opposed to. They may have found common ground on one or two topics with our side, but they still naively believe the rest of their views are perfectly fine and maybe they can introduce some of their other ideas to their new audience.
With that said, if they are willing to shut their mouths about the 80 to 90% of shite they are wrong about, and work with us on the issues we agree with and help those causes, by all means. But they still should not be fully embraced until they have completely re-examined everything they have ever believed.
They need to be left out of all discussions, period.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:09 pm to RFK
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While I had issues with Trump’s treatment of the military, spreading conspiracy theories, and age, I ultimately voted for him.
JFC...
Posted on 12/11/24 at 12:20 pm to RFK
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2. Their immovable stance on abortion when 60% of the country favors access to at least very-early abortion.
Trump's immovable stance on abortion? He split the baby in the controversy (something baby killers shouldn't be too upset about) and promoted overturning Roe to send the issue to the states to decide, which was the 100% constitutionally appropriate way to decide it. Even Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who is hardly a right wing extremist, agreed.The extremist position on abortion was Roe v. Wade... it was activist, judge made law with no solid basis in the Constitution and blatantly contradictory to the 10th Amendment.
So, frick you and frick anyone crying about it.
This post was edited on 12/11/24 at 12:27 pm
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