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re: Don't look now, MAGA has Amazon, Bezos in his cross hairs.

Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:07 am to
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:07 am to
I would love to see a tax code where all taxes were directly tied to income brackets (no corporate taxes / income from investments is just taxed as income) and shifted from year directly based on national spending. The government spends x. Thus they need x from the taxpayers (with "we're in a recession caveats").

This would heavily incentivize Congress to limit spending because voter's income taxes would increase with every dollar spent.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:08 am to
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I hate crony capitalism.
You only hate Amazon because Trump hates Amazon.

Why hide it?
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:08 am to
You mean like a president with close ties to a certain industry segment changes regulations in order to save that dying business?
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:09 am to
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I hate crony capitalism.


So lowering corporate taxes = victory for the American people.

However, if that corporation's CEO's newspaper criticizes the president, they should be taxed more?
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 11:10 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:12 am to
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You only hate Amazon because Trump hates Amazon.

Why hide it?


I really don't hate Amazon. I really don't like Bezos because he uses WP as his mouthpiece and WP's $600 MM contract with the CIA (probably to gas-light their readers).
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:15 am to
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I really don't hate Amazon. I really don't like Bezos because he uses WP as his mouthpiece and WP's $600 MM contract with the CIA (probably to gas-light their readers).

So consumers should be forced to pay more because you don't like Jeff Bezos? What a cuck
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 11:16 am
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:16 am to
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I really don't hate Amazon.
I did not think you did, to be honest.
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I really don't like Bezos because he uses WP as his mouthpiece and WP's $600 MM contract with the CIA (probably to gas-light their readers).
Then attack WaPo, and not the company you like.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:16 am to
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However, if that corporation's CEO's newspaper criticizes the president, they should be taxed more?



No. Tax everyone the same.

Amazon racks up tax breaks, yet still falls short of job vows in Stoughton


Rochester’s Amazon bid included $700M in local tax breaks

Billions in tax breaks offered to Amazon for second headquarters
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 11:19 am
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:17 am to
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Amazon made $5.4B in profit last year and paid ZERO in federal income tax.
Well it seems like they were able to use a loophole from the tax cuts:

Amazon earned $5.6B in 2017, but paid no federal taxes
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While the tax cuts generally took effect on Jan. 1, some companies, including Amazon, have managed to deter or postpone tax liability from prior years as part of a grandfather clause included in the law, ITEP reported.
I get people having a issue, but it was not specific to Amazon and it appears to he a one time thing. So a president singling out Amazon because they used a loophole available to others and likely will not be able to use this again, just doesn't make sense. This is especially true because the president did the same types of things, trying to find breaks and loopholes, which is legal and good business.
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 11:21 am
Posted by BhamDawg
A Brewery
Member since Sep 2009
441 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:17 am to
Pissed me off. I have been loading up on Amazon last few months and years. Personal beef is farking me. .
Paid zero taxes. Just like Trump. Didn't that make him smart?
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 11:18 am
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:18 am to
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No. Tax everyone at the same.

They are, it is called the U.S. Tax Code
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:19 am to
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No. Tax everyone at the same.
You listed a bunch of local and state tax breaks, and Rochester isn't a finalist for HQ2 so it was a proposal that didn't even get accepted.

So why would you focus on local and state tax law?
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:19 am to
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I get people having a issue, but it was not specific to Amazon and it appears to he a one time thing. So a president singling out Amazon because they used a loophole available to others and likely will not be able to use this again, just doesn't make sense.

From the think that that GOP points to as his biggest accomplishment thus far
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:22 am to
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So why would you focus on local and state tax law?



No one specified federal, state or local you just assumed federal.

Obviously Amazon is taking advantage of state and local taxes to gain advantages over other retailer that cannot get the same breaks.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31528 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:24 am to
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Should Amazon get special tax breaks that aren’t offered to other retailers? Playing corporate favorites through taxes isn’t “free market” economics, it’s picking winners and losers



I agree, that goes for any internet company though not just Amazon. There is no national sales tax though so why is Trump getting involved?
This post was edited on 3/28/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182266 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:24 am to
Trump is dead set on fricking with a booming economy the past 3 weeks. Let the free market reign and quit killing my portfolio please!
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:24 am to
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“He’s obsessed with Amazon,” a source said. “Obsessed.


Don't retailers like Macy's and Tiffany an Co lease space out from Trump?
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:25 am to
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No one specified federal, state or local you just assumed federal. Obviously Amazon is taking advantage of state and local taxes to gain advantages over other retailer that cannot get the same breaks.


Sounds like you agree with Trump that not paying taxes is "smart"
Posted by IrishTiger89
Member since May 2017
1492 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:26 am to
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I agree, that goes for any internet company though not just Amazon. There is no national sales tax though so why is Trump getting involved?

I pay sales tax when I buy stuff directly from Amazon
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 11:26 am to
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Obviously Amazon is taking advantage of state and local taxes to gain advantages over other retailer that cannot get the same breaks.


Correct. Fair criticism and good debate point IMO.
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