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re: Don't let Trump fool you about the Puerto Rico disaster
Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:22 pm to prplhze2000
Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:22 pm to prplhze2000
They're an island. Not nearly as easy to help.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:10 pm to buckeye_vol
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Well it does seem like that's a longer delay than usual.
Seem? C'mon. It's called a "disaster" for a reason. shite's fricked up. Normal no longer applies. I lived through Katrina and know, despite the protestations of the Left, very little could have been done quicker given the infrastructure destruction, the standing water, the unprecedented chaos and the natural entropy of a government bureaucracy.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:14 pm to prplhze2000
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Don't let this new narrative sit well with you all. In modern day time it does not take 6-7 days to send help to those brown people in Puerto Rico! If
I see you've reached your faux outrage racial injustice quota for the day.
P.S. Puerto Rico is majority white......like 75% white...
Moron...
Demographics of Puerto Rico
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:14 pm to FairhopeTider
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It’s all fun and games until a few hundred thousand Puerto Ricans move to Florida
And actually start paying federal income taxes?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:26 pm to prplhze2000
There should be 25K military there delivering water, generators. Obama mobilized for Haiti way faster than this.
Trump was a 3rd rate real estate developer and probably had no clue these were US citizens, so no one should be shocked by this. He isn't very smart.
Trump was a 3rd rate real estate developer and probably had no clue these were US citizens, so no one should be shocked by this. He isn't very smart.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:34 pm to geauxtigs999
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There should be 25K military there delivering water, generators. Obama mobilized for Haiti way faster than this.
Are you joking? Have you lived under a rock since Haiti? The Haiti "recovery" effort was a complete disaster. You can also thank the Clintons for that.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:37 pm to buckeye_vol
Trump wanted to send help earlier, but Hank Johnson warned him that sending so much relief to PR might cause the island to capsize.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:37 pm to prplhze2000
They keep voting to NOT be a state.
Were they a state, they would have had help immediately
Were they a state, they would have had help immediately
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:43 pm to tiggerthetooth
No, we had 20,000 troops in both Haiti and also Japan after the tsunami. Fast mobilization.
Years later in Haiti has nothing to do with Puerto Rico. They aren't a US territory.
Years later in Haiti has nothing to do with Puerto Rico. They aren't a US territory.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:47 pm to geauxtigs999
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rump was a 3rd rate real estate developer and probably had no clue these were US citizens, so no one should be shocked by this. He isn't very smart.
We were soooo better off with the 4th rate community organizer that thought they were the 53rd state!
And the really funny part is you got your arse handed to you by someone who "isn't very smart"! Sucks to be you!
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:57 pm to Jake88
quote:Of course. But that's why the support has to come from those who weren't impacted, and since Hurricanes are one of the disasters that doesn't come unexpectedly, preparation can begin before the disaster occurs. But I am willing to also give them the benefit of the doubt because of the other storms. But I had to consider that on my own, but I would give it more credence if they actually supported it. I don't have anything to justify it though at all, so maybe the opposite is true too that subsequent storms are easier move resources with people and systems already in place and with some added experience. I find that less likely though.
Seem? C'mon. It's called a "disaster" for a reason
quote:I understand that the disaster doesn't go away when support arrives, so it's trying to make a terrible situation less terrible.
I lived through Katrina and know, despite the protestations of the Left, very little could have been done quicker given the infrastructure destruction, the standing water, the unprecedented chaos and the natural entropy of a government bureaucracy.
Thst being said, I just find the time to even get the there to seem lengthy, but I don't know if that's true or not. I'm going to withhold judgement, but that doesn't make it NOT seem lengthy.
And whether it took longer than it should or not, I know there are a lot of things outside of Trump's control in that regard. So I can't assume something negative about Trump and the response unless there is evidence to suggest otherwise. But I am critical of hIs leadership in directing focus to something far less important and far more divisive. He just continues to display a fundamental lack of leadership skills in that regard, and I'm wondering if even has them at all.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:59 pm to Roaad
quote:Except they voted for statehood early this year with like 97% of the vote, but turnout was historically low which probably skewed it as the polls were much closer but still in favor of statehood.
They keep voting to NOT be a state.
Were they a state, they would have had help immediately
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:00 pm to geauxtigs999
Obama had 8000 troops EN ROUTE to Haiti in two days. It took TWO WEEKS to get those 20, 000 there.
Counting Coast Guard, there are roughly 5400 active service people in Puerto Rico now, with more en route. We have sent everything Puerto Rico has asked for, my understanding is the Governor is calling the shots.
Counting Coast Guard, there are roughly 5400 active service people in Puerto Rico now, with more en route. We have sent everything Puerto Rico has asked for, my understanding is the Governor is calling the shots.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:01 pm to geauxtigs999
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No, we had 20,000 troops in both Haiti and also Japan after the tsunami. Fast mobilization.
Years later in Haiti has nothing to do with Puerto Rico. They aren't a US territory.
Haiti was and is STILL a disaster and the Democrats made a KILLING off of that entire ordeal. Hell, even Hillary Clinton extended family members got in on the action. NICE!!!
P.S. Have you ever thought about the LAND AREA size of Haiti vs Puerto Rico? Just curious if you ever considered the fact that Puerto Rico is far smaller than Haiti.
Puerto Rico 3,515 m^2
Haiti 10,714 m^2
Haiti was 3 times larger than Puerto Rico...
And as someone who has seen several disasters take place you can't just have every jerk off out there jumping in to help. There are special circumstances to consider that might arise in helping that could do more damage if not considered carefully.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:02 pm to buckeye_vol
All this ginned-up false outrage over Puerto Rico, and you tards didn't blink an eye when rocket man was threatening Guam with nukes.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:11 pm to texashorn
quote:I'm not outraged. I am applying the same criticism to Trump as he applied to Obama of misplaced focus. It's just an issue of poor leadership.
All this ginned-up false outrage over Puerto Rico,
quote:Again. I have no idea what NK-Quam has to do with Puerto Rico. And I have no idea what you're using to say "didn't bat an eye," because it was a hot topic issue on all sides. Maybe you do this to others, but I just don't have any idea why you always bring up some issue that wasn't even pertinent to my post or even something I was considering at the time, without any context or justification for its inclusion. And usually you present it as some view that I hold, and it's usually a misrepresentation or flat out false. It's really odd.
and you tards didn't blink an eye when rocket man was threatening Guam with nukes.
Although, I don't get too riled up over Kim's threats since they have always been hollow, and I don't think even he's crazy enough to follow through since he knows that's probably the last decision he'll make. But I still found it to be an important story nonetheless.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:15 pm to geauxtigs999
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Obama mobilized for Haiti way faster than this.
Haiti still had intact airports and harbors, Puerto Rico does not, are you capable of setting aside your TDS and recognizing the differnce?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:16 pm to Gaspergou202
Yeah, just listen to them talk. Obama actually comes off intelligent while the other guy talks gibberish about most subjects and is a grifter.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:23 pm to prplhze2000
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by prplhze2000
Bull shite. Look at these private planes and cruise ships able to bring aid and rescue people
Jesus, what an idiot.
The Berlin airlift needed 1,500 flights per day to keep a population of less than half of PR's supplied. You think a few private planes and a few cruise ships can do this for Puerto Rico?
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:25 pm to geauxtigs999
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Yeah, just listen to them talk. Obama actually comes off intelligent while the other guy talks gibberish about most subjects and is a grifter.
Hitler was also a really gifted speaker...
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