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re: Don't let Trump fool you about the Puerto Rico disaster

Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:25 pm to
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:25 pm to
He is playing hard ball trying to get them to pay off their debts. Good move he's got them in a poor bargaining position.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:26 pm to
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Yeah, just listen to them talk. Obama actually comes off intelligent while the other guy talks gibberish about most subjects and is a grifter.
Obama does seem more intelligent in conversation, but we can't really base our conclusion on that alone. And in Trump's case, I think the way he comes off is due to some personality traits, emotional intelligence, and impulsivity, rather than as a result of lower intelligence.

At the same time, those traits may inhibit from maximizing his intelligence in many situations, especially ones where those other traits work against him.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:27 pm to
You were cheerleading the progs who called Trump a war monger for getting riled up over Guam being threatened. You know... American citizens?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:27 pm to
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Hitler was also a really gifted speaker...
And I've never seen anyone question his intelligence either.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:30 pm to
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Obama does seem more intelligent in conversation

Except for the "uhhs" while he's trying to keep all his lies straight.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:36 pm to
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You were cheerleading the progs who called Trump a war monger for getting riled up over Guam being threatened.
What are you talking about? I didn't habe any major issue with Trump's response, because Kim's threat was hollow anyways. I think the praise and the criticism was unwarranted given that.

But now you're forcing me to defense those who criticized him, even though it was unwarranted, because the criticism want because they didn't think Trump should care about Quam. It was that they didn't think he should escalate the situation, and make an attack more likely.

I didn't see anyone praising Trump or criticizing him make any statements like that. If someone did then I disagree, but I think your misrepresenting the overall criticism.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61189 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:36 pm to
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And I've never seen anyone question his intelligence either.



And you see where his "intelligence" led him.

I guess we agree.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:36 pm to
Yes it's hard, but our military is good at this sort of thing. They are just 4-5 days too late. This storm gave us plenty of warning.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:53 pm to
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Except for the "uhhs" while he's trying to keep all his lies straight.
Well then they both look idiotic when they are lying. Trump's issue is that he uses a ton of hyperbole and speaks in absolutes. That probably sounds less intelligent, because it's not a logical representation of many of the topics, but it seems pretty effective persuasively when the general basis is true or at least plausible.

His problem is that he uses the hyperbole and absolutes when the basis is not believable, and especially when it's clearly false, whether a lie or in error. It often sounds almost childlike or plain delusional when that happens.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:00 am to
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prplhze2000


Next time you feel the urge to start a thread...

..don't.

Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:07 am to
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And you see where his "intelligence" led him.
Yes. Sociopathic tendencies with high intelligence is terrifying combination, but I so think the intelligence of offsets that since it may make then more rational in their decision-making and opportunity to channel if in more legal means, or at least leads to crimes that are more white collar, something like The Wolf Of Wall Street.

Unfortunately Hitler grew in desperate times, which probably unfounded him, but defintely influenced the support for him, his beliefs, and his methods.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61189 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:12 am to
I laughed at everyone afraid of Trump being "nefarious". The guy is simply not an under the radar covert type dude. There's nothing he's doing that isn't on full blast in the media and he's simply terrible at hiding what he does. He is genuinely quite possibly the most transparent POTUS there has ever been and its for a combination of reasons. 1. We have a complete over-saturation of coverage on his everyday moves, and 2. he openly puts a lot of shite out there utilizing far more platforms than any POTUS has ever used before.

I don't think this is a bad thing. The libs won't allow Trump to do a damn thing without them taking note. They're serving a solid purpose in that regard. Just wish they'd stop with all of the incessant hate, lying, and outrage garbage.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
10848 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 12:48 am to
It is a foreign country I do believe and not a state
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 1:26 am to
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I laughed at everyone afraid of Trump being "nefarious".
What makes this funny? I don't think he's scheming and would plan something nefarious from the get go, but I also think his worldview and moral guidance has an exteme egotistical basis, almost like a newborn child. In other words, good and bad, right and wrong are determined by how it impacts himself, at least first and foremost. Then maybe if it's something that doesn't really impact him, his basis becomes more traditional.

Luckily that usually means not doing something illegal, since that's the point; however, there are numerous examples throughout his history that are concerning, not because they seem especially nefarious, if at all, but because they are so unnecessary, that they seem like they aren't even based in reality at all, except for his own subjective belief in how it impacts him.
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He is genuinely quite possibly the most transparent POTUS there has ever been and its for a combination of reasons.
See and I think this is why there is such a huge divide on him, which was evident in the Sam Harris's in Scott Adams interview. One group sees something as endurance that he "tells it how it is and no BS," and the other group sees the same thing as think he's "completely BSing telling it like he thinks it should be, or how it will benefit him."

And frankly, I think that even those who think it's BS, believe that he probably believes that he's saying a lot of the time. So his supporters see honesty as a purely intent issue; he's telling me what he believe and therefore he's not lying to me, unlike most politicians. Then the other side thinks that if you say what you believe all the time, but there is a lot of BS and or completely Co contradictory to a previous statement, that you also beloved at the time, then clearly your belief doesn't make it any less likely to be BS."

I actually think this may be one of the major reasons for such different views because usually there is a relationship between ones belief and the likelihood that it's BS.
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We have a complete over-saturation of coverage on his everyday moves,
Probably, that' probably had only become possible not too long ago, and it continues to become increasingly possible.
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he openly puts a lot of shite out there utilizing far more platforms than any POTUS has ever used before.
You're right. Again this is partly because things like Twitter haven't been out that long.

But this is gets back to that divide. Trump has been saying what's on his mind for years via Twitter, and when you interviews, blog posts, etc., we actually had huge sample of statements about many issues. But here is thing. It seems like almost every stance or statement he makes usually with such absolute confidence, there is another tweet where he makes a statement with absolute confidence that completely contradicts previous statements. There is a subreddit dedicated to it, and it's almost uncanny how frequently it occurs. And because he speaks in such absolutes, it's from one exteme to the other. And if he confidently believes what he says, but confidently believes and states the opposite tomorrow, is that really transparency?
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5054 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 3:24 am to
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it does not take 6-7 days to send help to those brown people in Puerto Rico!



Why is it that our liberal fellow Americans are the most racist mother frickers in the country? You see everything in terms of race, and then stomp your feet and point your finger at the conservative people that are not racist and you yell at the top of your lungs - racist. STFU. You are the people that wanted slavery. Your party had the KKK. Your party had the lynchings. Your party wanted segregation. Your party is responsible for the condition of the minorities in the inner cities - keeping that voting block on a leash. Now you have antifa Nazis to beat conservative people with fricking sticks while stomping their feet on the person's head and screaming "Nazi" at them. Do you really not see where this is headed?
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
11698 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 5:16 am to
frick YOU!!!!!!!!!.................. that is all
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8509 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 5:50 am to
I think this is a troll job ,because this is stupidity of the highest degree. If you are being serious than I strongly encourage you never to reproduce and/or vote.

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In modern day time it does not take 6-7 days to send help to those brown people in Puerto Rico! 


For government response to a natural disaster that wrecked an island 6-7 days is quick. Also, this is the third one in a span of 1 month and the response has been phenomenonal for all three areas hit by hurricanes this year.

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They've described how people have been there about 5k soldiers compared to over 30k in FL and TX within 2 days of their storms....


Yeah because Puerto Rico is is close to same population as the areas affected on TX and FL. Another thing Puerto Rico is an island you retard. Do us all a favor and post less...



Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21319 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 6:03 am to
Seems like lots of brown people in Texas and Florida got help quickly.
Posted by steadytiger
Member since Jan 2007
2756 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:34 am to
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Don't allow rhetoric and fibs to catch fire!! Common sense is no longer common and calling a spade a spade needs to happen!!


What an idiot you are. So filled with hate too, a bad combination. Why not ask why Porto Ricans are leaving the island by the hundreds of thousands instead of staying to help rebuild their prized home.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79068 posts
Posted on 9/30/17 at 7:47 am to
In 4 pages you've posted 3x including your OP. Rex used to do that.

Are you Rexcatur?
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