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Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:15 pm to Salmon
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well when your investments are heavily subsidized by the government and on public ROWs, shouldn't the government, and the most importantly, the taxpayers, have some say?
I agree the government shouldn't just give out money, but do we have any say in any other government funding private business or individuals?
If Bob is on "disability" for his ADHD, we don't get to say how Bob spends his disability check even though it's our money and we don't own Bob's possessions.
Of course politicians both R and D are getting rich by writing these grants to give to companies that they somehow sit on the board of or brother owns. We know it happens, but we would rather argue about who is worse R's or D's.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:16 pm to Salmon
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Ok. Again. This has nothing to do with NN.
It has everything to do with it
NN legalized smaller ISPs from offering specific packages, at a lower cost. Now that they cant hide behind NN, they are keeping them out with franchise contracts
The bad guy in all this has always been govt control
If I now wanted to offer non-streaming services at a greatly reduced monthly cost to subscribers, the franchise contract has frozen me out. Before it was NN that kept me out
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:17 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Wouldn’t NN affect wireless as well?
why are you so convinced that in this ONE CASE the free market can't improve everything for everyone?
or maybe you think government regulations are the answer to all.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:17 pm to Aristo
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I agree the government shouldn't just give out money, but do we have any say in any other government funding private business or individuals?
We should.
So when given the opportunity, we definitely shouldn't be opposed to it.
Yet here we are.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:17 pm to CptBengal
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this doesnt comport with what reddit told straightcuckhomey and slackcuck.
Do you know when that article was written? 2013, well before any of this Title 2 and NN stuff started to arise.
Nothing about yesterday's ruling does anything to change the premise of that entire article.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:18 pm to RobbBobb
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NN legalized smaller ISPs from offering specific packages, at a lower cost. Now that they cant hide behind NN, they are keeping them out with franchise contracts
What does this have to do with allowing other on the infrastructure?
And you need to link this.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:20 pm to Salmon
all i know is tmobile gives me free unlimited music streaming even though i have a 2GB data cap and i have spotify and google music cranked up to INSANE quality.
mmmm, free unlimited music thanks to selective net traffic filtering.
mmmm, free unlimited music thanks to selective net traffic filtering.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:20 pm to CAD703X
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why are you so convinced that in this ONE CASE the free market can't improve everything for everyone?
well if you believe the article in the OP, and you should, you would realize that it isn't a free market
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:21 pm to Salmon
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So when given the opportunity, we definitely shouldn't be opposed to it.
Sorry, just not a fan of giving government control. They don't exactly have the best track record.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:21 pm to Salmon
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you would realize that it isn't a free market
comcast is dead salmon. why are you ignoring that wireless is the future of our internet and we already have about a dozen or more choices in major metro areas.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:23 pm to Aristo
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Sorry, just not a fan of giving government control. They don't exactly have the best track record.
The government is already in control. That is what everyone seemingly ignores.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
SFP comin through with a cherry picked article supporting the anti-gov religion!
Seriously though, the cable companies and ISPs have the lowest consumer ratings in the country. And yet, they thrive. Free market indeed.
Seriously though, the cable companies and ISPs have the lowest consumer ratings in the country. And yet, they thrive. Free market indeed.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:25 pm to CAD703X
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comcast is dead salmon
I can't wait.
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why are you ignoring that wireless is the future of our internet and we already have about a dozen or more choices in major metro areas.
I'm not.
But nobody has been able to tell me how NN would affect wireless.
At its core, it is basic consumer protection. I realize the the NN laws that were just repealed had other bullshite tacked on, and I was against those.
But I would still like some form of replacement bill that has basic protections.
But that isn't how our shitty government works. They either go all in or nothing.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:25 pm to Tigerdev
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supporting the anti-gov religion!
and what is your religion? man-made climate change?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:25 pm to Salmon
Should have add a more in that sentence. Of course the basically control everything, no need to give then more.
I would even say if a private business owns something or the government owns something the consumer has more control over the business via the invisible hand than it does over the government.
I would even say if a private business owns something or the government owns something the consumer has more control over the business via the invisible hand than it does over the government.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:26 pm to Salmon
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But that isn't how our shitty government works. They either go all in or nothing.
i'll take nothing every time.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:27 pm to CAD703X
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why are you ignoring that wireless is the future of our internet and we already have about a dozen or more choices in major metro areas.
Like?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:27 pm to CAD703X
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all i know is tmobile gives me free unlimited music streaming even though i have a 2GB data cap and i have spotify and google music cranked up to INSANE quality.
mmmm, free unlimited music thanks to selective net traffic filtering.
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gives me
You sound like a Dem voter. They gives me!! FREE!!!
Posted on 12/15/17 at 2:27 pm to CAD703X
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i'll take nothing every time.
I'll take nothing when wireless is everywhere.
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