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re: Don't be fooled by this "civil war" in Russia, it's an obvious power play by Putin...

Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:53 am to
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:53 am to
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 11:55 am to
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Facts are stubborn things. In August of 1992, after the collapse of the USSR, then Secretary of State James Baker promised Mikhail Gorbachev that NATO would not expand one inch east of Germany. Unfortunately, thirty years later, Joe Biden comes along and pours gasoline on a simmering fire by saying NATO must accept Ukraine as a member nation.
Hint: Joe Biden does what he is told.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25047 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 12:54 pm to
To me, it is too soon to tell where this is going and where it will end.

It currently looks like Prigozhin and the Russian command were royally pissed at each other. Prigozhin started echoing the complaints and dissatisfactions of the troops on the ground when he said that Ukraine was never a threat to Russia. Then the RA shelled Wagner heavily leaving no peaceful solution.

Prigozhin seems to be appealing to the mass of demoralized regular RA troops and conscripts. There is a very good chance that they don't share Putin's ambitions and dreams enough to die for it.
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
18128 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:10 pm to
I don't believe shite about Ukraine or Russia.


I view that situation like I used to view a sunday night football game that included two teams I didn't care about. I'd pay attention every now and then, but for the most part, idc.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8689 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Hint: Joe Biden does what he is told.


Hint: James Baker was a Republican. I would argue therein lies the sick logic for the democrat nullifying the original 1992 agreement. So maybe the democrats back then (which included Senator Joe Biden) were incensed a Republican would dare to hammer out an agreement with Mikhail Gorbachev. Like maybe the blood-sucking democrat sharks were circling the USSR sinking ship waiting to suck the country dry. You cringe? So how much did the 'Big Guy' (aka Joe Biden) realize on that Ukraine bribery scheme anyway? You know the scheme that got that Ukranian prosecutor investigating the Burisma - Hunter connection fired?

Fast forward to the Trump era. So the democrats orchestrate this whole Trump - Putin collusion hoax to justify committing billions $ to fund the Ukraine - Russia proxy war. And get this, they get their brain dead pal Joe Biden to 'get'ur' done. Connect the dots.

Bottom line. Don't let your warmongering democrat funded Ukraine -Russia proxy war get out of control to the point you send draft notices to my grandsons (and granddaughters) demanding they fight your stupid war. You democrats are adept at starting nasty wars that our children have to fight. We should have learned our lesson from Viet Nam.

Donald Trump is for peace. Joe Biden funds war.

Facts are stubborn things - John Adams
This post was edited on 6/27/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by LatherZap
Member since Mar 2022
1247 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:14 pm to
Only programmed fools use the term "bootlicker".
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:15 pm to
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did the CIA get to Prigozhin with a nice wire transfer?




Prigozhin is a very rich oligarch he isn't interested in US dollars.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
3407 posts
Posted on 6/24/23 at 2:26 pm to
Just image of unarmed Americans did this.
Posted by Motownsix
Boise
Member since Oct 2022
3094 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 12:52 am to
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quote:Well they’re using real army men rather than a bunch of fat old guys dressed up in army man Halloween costumes.

Boy, you really don’t like the feddies.


Is that where we decided the narrative is at now? The J6 people were Antifa. Then they were BLM. Because it only makes sense that radical left organizations wanted to keep Biden from being president. Now they were FBI agents? Trump used the FBI to make republicans look bad? It’s all a bit confusing. The 2k sitting in jail making Tik tok videos with Trump are government plants? The chick that was shot in the throat and choked on her blood was an FBI plant? J6 hurt our party more than people want to admit. Again, sane people could have condemned the behavior rather than blame it on Antifa.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12989 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 2:23 am to
Putin flat out said that he will not forgive a traitor. That is a dead man walking. The Russians don't play.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4452 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 3:16 am to
Go play in traffic a-hole
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35807 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:48 am to
But the conspiracies are much more comforting to accept.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295457 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:50 am to
I can't figure out whats real and fake.

Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
7173 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 7:51 am to
You’re wrong. Putin is an idiot. He’ll be dead soon.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
12870 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:00 am to
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The man always has a plan and is using Wagner to consolidate power in Russia for the final offensive against Ukraine.




quote:

So thinks some of the Putin boot lickers on this board, no doubt




Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
11998 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:04 am to
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Prigozhin


Is a merc

quote:

CIA get to Prigozhin with a nice wire transfer?


Not like it would have made him betray his morals...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295457 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 8:05 am to
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Only programmed fools use the term "bootlicker".


"Bootlickers" support the FBI and the CIA.

OP is a CIA fan boi.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:18 am to
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The Russians don't play.


Their military prowess proves that. Lol.
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