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re: DOGE: FedGov has ~3M employees, ~4.6M credit cards/accounts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:20 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:20 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
There are almost 700,000 postal employee
I can think of five that would require a credit card
I can think of five that would require a credit card
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:22 pm to Bard
Most employees with have a travel card and some will have purchase cards. This doesn't surprise me.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:24 pm to TimeOutdoors
It should it would mean many had four or more I would think a large percentage of gov positions would not require a card leaving a much smaller pool having them
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:32 pm to bayoudude
Add in all the WFH and why would they need a CC
Posted on 2/20/25 at 3:33 pm to McChowder
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Check and see if those people are using reward points for personal gain. Time to start locking people up!
You want to lock people up for accumulating sky miles? Some of yall to need to calm the frick down.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:15 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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You want to lock people up for accumulating sky miles? Some of yall to need to calm the frick down.
It's called theft so yeah we should prosecute that.
You believe that benifits accrued from tax dollars should be diverted to enrich bureaucrats instead of using it for official business expenses?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:21 pm to Bard
I've never understood why the GTC is used because the system you use books everything and if that's how whatever you do gets paid you'd think it would just pay it. Nope they give you a credit card then tell you if they can't pay it then you're on the hook. There's a few times where finance is slow and I refuse to put one red cent from my account in that card. Government tells me to do something then Government is gonna frickin pay for it.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 5:24 pm to Bard
There are cards issued to agencies for purchases such as office supplies and the like.
But there should be no need for 1.6M agency cards.
Also, not every employee needs a credit card. Those who travel, that's one thing. But the office admin who never goes anywhere wouldn't need one.
But there should be no need for 1.6M agency cards.
Also, not every employee needs a credit card. Those who travel, that's one thing. But the office admin who never goes anywhere wouldn't need one.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 7:35 pm to McChowder
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It's called theft so yeah we should prosecute that.
You believe that benifits accrued from tax dollars should be diverted to enrich bureaucrats instead of using it for official business expenses?
At every company I've worked for travel is either booked through a person or a system. They choose to let you provide a rewards number or not. It's not like people can go and do it on the back end.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:24 pm to gaetti15
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Most if not all employees get a travel card used specific for traveling and another for other purchases (pcards), but those don't get handed out all willy nilly.
So 1.5 card average makes sense
I think yall might be confused with what a private company does
And what the federal government does
A private company can do whatever they want
Right, wrong or indifferent
I used my own credit card and filed an expense account monthly
Explain why all these federal employees need so many expenses
When they don’t even leave their homes???
WTF are they procuring???
Shut down all of the cards. Period
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:27 pm to Bard
I have worked private and public sector jobs requiring a lot of travel. From prior experience with the travel cards, they are issued in the employees name and the employee is personally liable to pay the monthly bill. It’s not like you swipe it for whatever you want and the government pays the balance. Before traveling you have to submit a prior authorization form estimating your expenses like hotel and flight costs. The employee signs it, the designated travel official reviews and signs, then the employee’s supervisor signs. Anything out of policy like a hotel not within allowed rates or not taking the most cost effective flight gets rejected. Then when you return from travel you file all your receipts accounting for every penny you are requesting a voucher for, it gets the same round of reviews and signatures, then a voucher is issued to the employee to use to pay the credit card.
Even if an employee used the travel card illegally to purchase non-approved expenses, they would owe the balance, not the government, and it is cause for firing. It is a more scrutinized system than practically any private sector travel management process.
Ironically you will find vastly higher rates of fraud with private companies and individuals improperly using money they obtain from the federal government than with federal employees improperly using federal funds. It is an extremely scrutinized process with a lot of controls in place. Some certainly find a way but they usually get caught.
Even if an employee used the travel card illegally to purchase non-approved expenses, they would owe the balance, not the government, and it is cause for firing. It is a more scrutinized system than practically any private sector travel management process.
Ironically you will find vastly higher rates of fraud with private companies and individuals improperly using money they obtain from the federal government than with federal employees improperly using federal funds. It is an extremely scrutinized process with a lot of controls in place. Some certainly find a way but they usually get caught.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:35 pm to Rohan Gravy
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Shut down all of the cards. Period
So no soldiers traveling to and from the Pentagon, their home bases etc? No air traffic controllers going to Oklahoma City for training? No inspectors making sure nuclear facilities are safe? No FBI agents traveling to find out if a Chinese national is stealing American technology?
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:37 pm to teke184
GSA leases come with gas cards.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:39 pm to MillerLiteTime
Yeah, the plebes are always held to very high standards of accountability.
I can’t imagine that a very high level of abuse is coming from those ranks.
I can’t imagine that a very high level of abuse is coming from those ranks.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 8:42 pm to Bard
Years ago when we traveled on DoD temp duty (TDY) we paid our own expenses and filed travel vouchers for reimbursement later.
Several yrs before I retired they made us get gov't credit cards and you had to use those when possible.
Several yrs before I retired they made us get gov't credit cards and you had to use those when possible.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:13 pm to Bard
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This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 1:21 am
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:16 pm to Eighteen
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what happens to all those reward points
Goes to the government via whatever contract they have with the credit card servicer. Most are through US Bank.
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:19 pm to Quidam65
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But there should be no need for 1.6M agency cards.
Also, not every employee needs a credit card. Those who travel, that's one thing. But the office admin who never goes anywhere wouldn't need one.
Totally most people in Fedgov don't even want CCs. It's way easier with central billing
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 2/20/25 at 9:19 pm to Bard
I remember back in the day no credit card for military tdys
Then cash backs kicked in.next thing you know all enlisted etc had to use the .gov credit card. DOD got the kick back.
Then cash backs kicked in.next thing you know all enlisted etc had to use the .gov credit card. DOD got the kick back.
This post was edited on 2/20/25 at 10:50 pm
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