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re: Does Trump's ties to Saudi / LIV Golf bother anyone?

Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87329 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:59 am to
Does mmcgrath care about the huge majority of politicians on the left, Ivy League schools, etc who've taken money in various forms from KSA interests?
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17456 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:59 am to
Previous post:

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The single most investigated human in history - exclusively by adversarial entities that are frothing at the mouth to throw him in jail - and absolutely NOTHING could be pinned on him


And you said:

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And I could just as well argue the same thing for Biden.


And I said:

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Well…. Go on. Argue it. Actual investigation please.


Annnd then you backtrack into “hey!! All presidential candidates are investigated!! ROFL!! LULZ!!!

Now.. back up your original statement.

Start with any bogus FISA warrants obtained via smoke and mirrors to a fisa court. Pre presidency. Then work your way to multiple committees.

We will await your next deflection or backtrack.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 11:59 am to
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I didnt "literally respond" to you or any post of yours about crime stats. I've been too busy folding you like bread dough over your Trump delusions. Leave the psychedelics alone, friend. They'll rot your brain.



There's been no folding of any kind.

You responded to a thread where I was talking with jimmy the leg. I'm not sure why you'd keep trying to deny this.

Are you high?

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You've quite literally argued, for 5ish pages, that Trump and his kids are corrupt. Were you aware that this isnt SnapChat and your posts stay up for all the board to read?



I'm not sure you can read.

Are you aware that I was saying I could point out your hypocrisy on the issue? That's why I've been going on about the Trump brothers - I'm pointing out that people can just as easily make allegations against them.

I've been arguing that I don't care about Hunter Biden or the Trump brothers. I'm pointing out that if you can make Hunter Biden allegations, I can just easily make Trump brother allegations.

Not once have I said I give a shite about the Trump brothers. If you can read, I've pointed out multiple times that I'm just destroying your logic here.

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Those are felonies, arent they?



1) Drugs shouldn't be a felony. They're a personal decision - why should I care if someone chooses to snort whatever drug they want?

It's the same with vaccines - they should be a personal decision.

And once again, we're arguing about Biden's son's crack cocaine smoking - this, this is the big smoking gun?



Why should I give a shite if Biden's kid engages in crack? I'm a pretty big advocate for drug legalization - this doesn't even seem to be related to Biden directly.

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So just to be clear, a world leader staying at a renowned 5* hotel is a red flag, but the President son's "hookers and blow" isnt?


It's not the fact that a world leader stayed at a 5* hotel, it's the fact that they attended a Trump business event while Trump was president that I could just as easily allege gives the appearance of wrongdoing/corruption.

And in any case, I care about neither. They're not directly related to Biden or Trump so cry me a river.

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How about the Hunter associates who came forward and confirmed the "Big Guy" was Joe? How about the admission by Hunter himself that these "deals" were only made because of who his father was? How do those red flags fly in your world?


The Delaware attorney general has investigated and is in the process of investigating this.

Until there's actual concrete evidence that could be admissible in a court of law, I'm inclined to not really care.

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But you want to gaslight a board, who you clearly cannot spar with intellectually, into believing that Trump is a hardened criminal, but the Bidens arent. See the problem here?



I'm quite easily sparring with everyone here. You are not the intellectual heavyweights you think you are. A southern school degree in fact suggests the opposite.

It's just pointless to do so when all you're doing is making allegations that I could just as well do back.

This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:02 pm to
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At business events?

We're not talking about hosting world leaders, we're talking about world leaders attending a Trump business event where the primary purpose was to sell property.


Yes again. I'm not sure if you are aware of how things typically work overseas, but when an American MNC seeks zoning and approval for a massive resort, gold club or casino, those Governments are highly integrated into that process. Take Biden for example. He attended GM's Detroit Zero plant opening. GM employees, mainly by way of the UAW donated untold millions to Biden's campaign. Is that corruption? Did anyone complain? No, on both counts.

You are trying too hard and now you are in a bit of a tailspin. Time to tap.
Posted by Cromulent
Down the Bayou
Member since Oct 2016
3346 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:03 pm to
Honest question, do you wear a helmet at all times?
And you’re a condescending one also. Now go hide behind your keyboard and laugh some more. We will have the last laugh.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22935 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:04 pm to
In case you havent been paying attention the PGA looks as bad or worse than LIV in all this drama.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:04 pm to
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And I could just as well argue the same thing for Biden.


I was talking about the argument that Biden has not been investigated, not that Biden was the most investigated individual.

Trump was definitely investigated more than Biden - my argument is that by virtue of being president, both people have been investigated more than other individuals around the world.

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Now.. back up your original statement.

Start with any bogus FISA warrants obtained via smoke and mirrors to a fisa court. Pre presidency. Then work your way to multiple committees.

We will await your next deflection or backtrack.


I'm not going to argue with you because you clearly misread/misunderstood and this is not going to go anywhere.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:05 pm
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:04 pm to
Poli board trump cult responses.
Projection
Now do
Whatabout
Accuse sexual deviency
And if all else fails..
Post meme they think is cool/snarky/funny.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:05 pm to
Oh wow. Emojis!

Those are like little animated white flags! I love 'em.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:06 pm to
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You asked me to provide an investigation


I did no such thing. I simply pointed out the folly of your post. Again, anyone with a modicum of legal experience wouldn’t make the argument you did.

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You tried arguing that there were no investigations -> me pointing out there was an investigation should have shut you down immediately. Why do you keep responding when you're now moving goal posts?


I did no such thing. You are lying.

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Are you seriously saying that the Indian Prime Minister would have been attending Trump events before Trump became president? A laughable position.


If I link foreign dignitaries working with trump prior to his political career, what will you say?
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Oh wow. Emojis!

Those are like little animated white flags! I love 'em.


Wow, you finally found something you could argue.



Emojis? This is now your argument once you've tried everything else?

Lmao.



Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
21115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:08 pm to
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but you didnt care about what Hunter and Joe were doing in China, Ukraine and Russia?


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That’s (D)ifferent.



Absolutely it's (D)ifferent...you have Joe Perve arse Biden on tape detailing with specifics how he shook down the Ukrainian President at the time to fire the prosecutor looking into his son's foibles while simultaneous the Dems are running an Impeachment on Trump with fourth person hearsay irrelevant info on his phone call with Zelinsky. What a load of horseshite!
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127380 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:08 pm to
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They are fascinating creatures, arent they?

Wonder how tCluckster feels about the PoliBoard being overrun by them.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17456 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:10 pm to
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I was talking about the argument that Biden has not been investigated, not that Biden was the most investigated individual.


Well that’s funny in that no one said he hasn’t been. It’s been said it’s going nowhere and smoothed over much more so than Trump. Then you stepped in it.

So your premise is that you responded to nothing?

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my argument is that by virtue of being president, both people have been investigated more than other individuals around the world.


Not what you said. It may be now. Since your original statement is indefensible.

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I'm not going to argue with you because you clearly misread/misunderstood and this is not going to go anywhere.


Backtrack complete. White flag observed.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:12 pm to
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I did no such thing. I simply pointed out the folly of your post. Again, anyone with a modicum of legal experience wouldn’t make the argument you did.


The person I responded to asked me to provide an investigation. I did so - you then jumped in.

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I did no such thing. You are lying.


The person I responded to, did so.

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I simply pointed out the folly of your post. Again, anyone with a modicum of legal experience wouldn’t make the argument you did.


Nowhere did you point out any folly. You believe you did so but you seem to not be understanding - all I was asked to do was point out an investigation by the user I was responding to.

I'm not sure what argument you seem to think I'm making.

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If I link foreign dignitaries working with trump prior to his political career, what will you say?


Foreign world leaders of large countries (>$1 trillion GDP) attending business events with the Trump organization?

If you do so, I'll take back my words.
Posted by TheQuestioner
Member since Jul 2022
115 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:14 pm to
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So your premise is that you responded to nothing?


No, my premise is that I was asked to provide a single instance of investigation.

I DID so. Now you people are moving the goal posts and arguing the *depth* of investigation which isn't something that was being argued in the first place.

You people were arguing that there was a complete lack of investigation so yes, I was responding to something.

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Not what you said. It may be now. Since your original statement is indefensible.


That's pretty much what I've been arguing through this entire thread. If you want to read something more into it, that's on you.

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Backtrack complete. White flag observed.


No backtrack. I just don't see the point in arguing with people who intentionally twist things or misread things on purpose.
This post was edited on 7/20/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47052 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:14 pm to
The PGA had no legitimate cause to remove their tournaments from his courses. So what is he supposed to do? Heaven forbid that he just sit there and take it.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157723 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:16 pm to
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is not going to go anywhere.


It could take you back to DU.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:16 pm to
Get a life and stop worrying about golf
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47571 posts
Posted on 7/20/22 at 12:17 pm to
You are literally here, all alone, with about 7 posters calling you a retard as you backtrack and post emojis.

How are you seeing this as an effective exchange for you?
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