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re: Does this Outlook outage lead to the government becoming more involved in regulating AI?
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:29 pm to BoarEd
Posted on 11/12/26 at 10:29 pm to BoarEd
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Fully retarded.
Car safety, Child labor laws, and environmental laws are just a few of the things China doesn't seem to care about. Are you going full communist?
Posted on 11/13/26 at 6:16 am to BoarEd
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You cannot stop China from developing these systems short of going to war with them, so it makes zero sense to use cyber attacks (whether SI driven or not) as your justification for hamstringing US development. It's literal suicide.
To your point, a Chinese model was used to help resolve the Huggingface incident. Claude’s guardrails wouldn’t let it do what it was asked.
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Using open-weights models, in particular zai-org/GLM-5.2, we were able to decipher most of the agent payloads (see below) that were encrypted via chunking and key encryption.
Huggingface
It’s a sucky situation. We’re in an arms race.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 6:32 am to The_Duke
He drinks ALL the kool-aid
Posted on 11/13/26 at 6:35 am to boosiebadazz
Do we then work to get foreign governments to regulate theirs?
I bet if we disarm our AI capabilities, all foreign entities will follow our lead.
Sometimes you should think long and hard before you post some of the shite you do. Boosie and SFP the downvotes leaders on TD for a reason.
I bet if we disarm our AI capabilities, all foreign entities will follow our lead.
Sometimes you should think long and hard before you post some of the shite you do. Boosie and SFP the downvotes leaders on TD for a reason.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 6:48 am to LemmyLives
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LemmyLives
You’re fighting the good fight trying to get the troglodytes here deprogrammed from the “ZOMG AI IS GOING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING”, but unfortunately you’re fighting a losing battle.
China has far too much money invested in killing off our AI capabilities to stop now, and people in this country are eating it up.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:06 am to The_Duke
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Car safety, Child labor laws, and environmental laws are just a few of the things China doesn't seem to care about. Are you going full communist?
The issue you are overlooking, even though the Outlook outage was not caused by AI disruption, is that regulations here at home, will not affect other players at all.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:12 am to The_Duke
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We need regulations --- it's inevitable and necessary. Software companies have had decades of "moving fast and breaking things," but at some point, maybe we are there, they will break everything, and something has to regulate it.
Whether or not this Outlook problem was AI, regulating(slowing down)AI will only hurt the US.
China isn't going to slow down.
What's crazy is both the US and China will be on the losing side of AI eventually. AI agents will seek each other out to work together and they won't have any national allegiance.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:12 am to boosiebadazz
No and it shouldn't.
It should be a referendum on our dumb-arse corporations outsourcing a basic tech function to one vendor, in the cloud.
But like our current political situation, nothing will happen.
It should be a referendum on our dumb-arse corporations outsourcing a basic tech function to one vendor, in the cloud.
But like our current political situation, nothing will happen.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:18 am to BoarEd
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if our lawmakers suddenly become retarded
"If"? "Suddenly"? I can't believe I'm saying this to you, but you are giving them too much credit.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:36 am to boosiebadazz
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Does this Outlook outage lead to the government becoming more involved in regulating AI?
It will be an excuse for dems to do what they were going to do anyway.
frick it.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:41 am to boosiebadazz
We’re in a new gilded age where a corporation can just pay a politician and there will be no fear of regulation or consequences if something goes wrong
The issue now is that most of the code written in the last 10 years is ai chicken scratch or in Hindu and all the old guys who could actually code and keep everything running have been laid off because their insurance was too high and they wanted too much money
Healthcare and banking largely runs on dusty beige boxes and ibm mainframes in a dark room hardwired together that nobody ever goes into and there’s a crotchety old programmer that has an office in a broom closet that can fix it all manually but usually nothing happens. The private equity buying up everything sees Dennis nedry on a spreadsheet making too much money and wants to fire him and simultaneously wants to switch everything to the “cloud” so it will be more prone to falling apart
Embrace accelerationism boosie. Instead of buying that next pickleball paddle buy you something to keep you safe when the system goes down
The issue now is that most of the code written in the last 10 years is ai chicken scratch or in Hindu and all the old guys who could actually code and keep everything running have been laid off because their insurance was too high and they wanted too much money
Healthcare and banking largely runs on dusty beige boxes and ibm mainframes in a dark room hardwired together that nobody ever goes into and there’s a crotchety old programmer that has an office in a broom closet that can fix it all manually but usually nothing happens. The private equity buying up everything sees Dennis nedry on a spreadsheet making too much money and wants to fire him and simultaneously wants to switch everything to the “cloud” so it will be more prone to falling apart
Embrace accelerationism boosie. Instead of buying that next pickleball paddle buy you something to keep you safe when the system goes down
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:49 am to SDVTiger
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Google workspace for the win. Outlook is for the poors
It’s literally the opposite. All the non for profits use Google. Everyone else that makes money uses 365.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:54 am to boosiebadazz
Everything moves to cloud based servers instead of individual servers at the businesses, it makes it easier for hackers to cause mass disruptions because everything is consolidated. Cheaper aint always better. 
Posted on 11/13/26 at 7:55 am to lake chuck fan
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Whether or not this Outlook problem was AI, regulating(slowing down)AI will only hurt the US. China isn't going to slow down.
China doesn’t need ai
The average Chinese kindergartener is smarter than the opulent corpulent American chatgpt
China took a shoebox full of old Nokia phones and built a better ai in a weekend than the one we spent years and trillions on
Posted on 11/13/26 at 8:21 am to ColdDuck
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It’s literally the opposite. All the non for profits use Google. Everyone else that makes money uses 365.
My anecdotal evidence nonprofit I volunteer for says you are correct.
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:08 am to boosiebadazz
Hands off!! No kings!!
Posted on 11/13/26 at 9:20 am to boosiebadazz
Microsoft fired the American engineers who built the whole system and replaced them with a race with an average IQ of 87
None of the Indians actually know how to code because they all fake their credentials. There are tons of stories of Indians being horrible programmers.
It wasn't that way years ago because, very early on the Indians coming here actually had skills, but like all things, Indians saw a way to scam, and the rise of fake credentials became standard for Indians. Now we are paying the price for their bullshite.
Yet another reason to end the H1B Visa
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India workforce, 2017
~8,000
Reported estimate
India workforce, 2022
20,000+
Microsoft's own report
None of the Indians actually know how to code because they all fake their credentials. There are tons of stories of Indians being horrible programmers.
It wasn't that way years ago because, very early on the Indians coming here actually had skills, but like all things, Indians saw a way to scam, and the rise of fake credentials became standard for Indians. Now we are paying the price for their bullshite.
Yet another reason to end the H1B Visa

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