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re: Does anyone understand why having the National Guard helping defeat crime is a bad thing?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
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In the downward direction. Criminals are killing far fewer criminals.
Lol. You said that people moving out wouldn’t affect crime rates in a downward direction. Yet people are obviously moving out and crime went down. Oof.
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:27 am to Gorilla Ball
It's not a bad thing when used in DC. It's not a bad thing if governors use them for crime or whatever.
I don't want any president federalizing troops for common law enforcement in the states. That's not their job.
I don't want any president federalizing troops for common law enforcement in the states. That's not their job.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
Certainly, even a puffed up fart such as yourself, malodorous and special, would have a moment of clarity that maybe attempting to invalidate the term “ urban chaos “ by posting a graph of declining murder rates would not withstand even basic scrutiny? And you are a lawyer? And people reach into their pockets and pay you for your services?
The Democratic Party most certainly benefits from urban chaos. Every single social pathology that thrives in the hood is to their benefit and ensures their control. Since Pat Moynihan onward, we’ve known the connection between Democrats and their ghetto client base.And we know that as that client base stays stagnant and desperate , Democrats stay politically entrenched. Oh, but you have a graph and a pie chart so excuse us.
The Democratic Party most certainly benefits from urban chaos. Every single social pathology that thrives in the hood is to their benefit and ensures their control. Since Pat Moynihan onward, we’ve known the connection between Democrats and their ghetto client base.And we know that as that client base stays stagnant and desperate , Democrats stay politically entrenched. Oh, but you have a graph and a pie chart so excuse us.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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MAGA isn't really conservative, yet, ironically, claims to be the "real" conservatives.
Says the claimed “lawyer” who uses unverified data and random graphs from Google searches.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:31 am to Padme
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If you told me that, it would make me wonder how you became so wise without a Christian world view.
I attend Catholic mass faithfully every Sunday now. The same chapel that I went to CCD and mass with my mother as a child. Even I , who makes a mess of everything, and struggles to learn lessons, receives His grace.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:34 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, look at the decrease. Note: it's the same trend basically everywhere.
and? Crime isnt static. And it trending down from historic highs, for whatever reason, in no way implies that it is no longer a serious problem. And it is certainly not evidence that left-wing leaders have suddenly become tough on crime. New Orleans is a good example of crime being down in the face of complete and utter inaction and incompetence by city leadership.
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The cites got a lot cleaner, and more leftist.
More leftist? yes. Cleaner? Not sure where you are getting that idea from.
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His argument was they remain dangerous to remain more leftist. The literal opposite has been shown to be true.
His argument is that dems don't take unique, meaningful steps to fix the crime problem because the squalor benefits them. You can agree or disagree, but these leaders are saying, in no uncertain terms, that they intent to be lax on crime and reign in policing. That's not up for debate.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
The no true Scotsman fallacy.
MAGA is no less conservative than modern leftists are "liberal"
Welcome to 2025
MAGA is no less conservative than modern leftists are "liberal"
Welcome to 2025
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:36 am to CleverUserName
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Says the claimed “lawyer” who uses unverified data and random graphs from Google searches.
Is championing executive overreach a typical conservative value?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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more isolated from new ideas.
Ideas which result in rampant crime are worth being isolated from.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:42 am to Powerman
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Is championing executive overreach a typical conservative value?
Oh STFU. No one complained, left or right, when Obama was deploying the guard all over the country -including DC- to clean up the goddamned riots started by left-wing agitators over a lie.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:44 am to BamaCoaster
It will never be about facts with these people. It will be about some controlling the narrative so that the “people“ listen to only one side.
And they are the side currently in power who want to stay that way.
Control the message, stay in power.
And they are the side currently in power who want to stay that way.
Control the message, stay in power.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:44 am to Flats
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It's not a bad thing when used in DC. It's not a bad thing if governors use them for crime or whatever.
I don't want any president federalizing troops for common law enforcement in the states. That's not their job.
I'll add one to that.
I also don't think it's a bad thing if governors or mayors refuse to cooperate with and instead deliberately impede the enforcement of federal immigration law.
But yes, that's my position as well.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:45 am to Vacherie Saint
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MAGA is no less conservative than modern leftists are "liberal"
Does the left claim to be liberal?
I'm not sure they even bother to do that anymore.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 8:47 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:45 am to Vacherie Saint
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No one complained, left or right, when Obama was deploying the guard all over the country
Obama federalized and deployed the guard all over the country or was it state governors who activated them to deal with the riots?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:46 am to Vacherie Saint
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Oh STFU. No one complained, left or right, when Obama was deploying the guard all over the country -including DC- to clean up the goddamned riots started by left-wing agitators over a lie.
Yeah...no one ever complained about Obama and executive overreach
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:47 am to jp4lsu
This opens the door for abuse by our government in the future. Will those who approve of this support it under a leftist president?
If we do not fix the causes of crime, then nothing will change.
If we do not fix the causes of crime, then nothing will change.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 8:48 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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If this is true, why have they been committing political suicide for 30 years?
Too bad that graph doesn't take into account dropped charges and releases and reduced penalties. Everything they can do to get them back out on the streets. Dems love getting the criminals back out in society as fast as they can.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Again, look at the decrease. Note: it's the same trend basically everywhere.
“Duhh statishsticks!!! Pleeese beeleeve the statishsticks!! The programmers want you to believe them!! Belieeeve!!!!!”
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Crime Report Manipulation Is Common Among New York Police, Study Finds
NY Times
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Congress investigating allegations that DC police manipulated crime data
NBC News
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How Accurate Are Crime Statistics? All the numbers point to a sharp downturn in Washington and other big cities. After that it becomes a little tricky.
Bloomberg
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Crime Numbers Game: Management by Manipulation
John A. Eterno; Eli B. Silverman Date Published 2012 Length 313 pages Annotation This book investigates crime statistics manipulation in the New York Police Department (NYPD) and the repercussions suffered by crime victims and those who blew the whistle on this corrupt practice.
OBAMA term Justice Department publication
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Metrics Management and Bureaucratic Accountability: Evidence from Policing*
NC DOJ
And on and on and on and on and on. Oh, and the last nail in the coffin? MSNBC is defending the numbers.
But but but the Statishsticks!!!!!!!! Look. Random graphs!!! Look at the random graphs!!!
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:47 am to wackatimesthree
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I also don't think it's a bad thing if governors or mayors refuse to cooperate with and instead deliberately impede the enforcement of federal immigration law.
Interesting. What if governors refused to cooperate with other federal laws like desegregated schools?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:48 am to Powerman
what a lazy response. No one complained about him deploying the guard.
But keep this up... Keep reflexively taking the wrong side of every issue. Its killing your party and we are all dressed and ready for the funeral.
But keep this up... Keep reflexively taking the wrong side of every issue. Its killing your party and we are all dressed and ready for the funeral.
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