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re: Does anyone understand why having the National Guard helping defeat crime is a bad thing?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:48 am to Vacherie Saint
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:48 am to Vacherie Saint
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No one complained, left or right, when Obama was deploying the guard all over the country -including DC- to clean up the goddamned riots started by left-wing agitators over a lie.
Obama didn't federalize any state NG troops according to AI. They stayed under state control.
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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If this is true, why have they been committing political suicide for 30 years?
Because the democrats have kept the inner city (black people) on the project plantation and kept the negroes away from the white liberals.
Crime Evaporated? Is that a technical term? Does that mean there was no crime? Please explain Lucy.
Also, please explain your graph. I get the Y axis and I get the X axis. What is the linear blue line? I'm guessing its the rate of crime over time due to population. What are the variables that would change that? Were there policies changes and crimes charged, or even responding to crimes? Is this graph a nation wide graph over this period of time? No legend, no context?
Ok, I believe you, not really. You are lame, I hope you are better than this for the people you represent legally.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:52 am to Powerman
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Is championing executive overreach a typical conservative value?
Like take the vaccine or lose your job? Like stay in your homes unless you are a rioter? Hit us back when the NG is corralling people into their homes per executive decree. Not simply walking the streets.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:53 am to Gorilla Ball
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Does anyone understand why having the National Guard helping defeat crime is a bad thing?
There are laws on the books against using federal troops for police activities. That law was passed a long time ago.
A conservative would say there is this old law. People put it in place for a reason. We don’t understand why. Let’s try to understand why before changing anything.
A progressive would say there is this old law. People put it in place for a reason. We don’t understand why. Let’s move it. It’s in the way.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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The question is the cost (both in terms of rights and money) and long-term policy.
So far the cost is way less than the damage ignoring the nuclear family has done. Let’s talk when things even out a bit shall we? Someone’s got to be these people’s daddy since their own fathers weren’t up to the task
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 9:01 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:03 am to BuckI
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This opens the door for abuse by our government in the future. Will those who approve of this support it under a leftist president?
Already answered in this thread. So you folks can drop the “we can do this toooo!” routine.
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Like the nuclear option in the Senate?
Mandatory and strict government commanded shut down of your business and movement at their own discretion? While excusing others at their discretion?
Taking over healthcare with empty promises and lies?
Three letter agencies conspiring against the other party?
Impeachment? Twice?
Spying and FBI raids on your opponent?
Oh gee… the LEFT would NEVER do anything brash without the right doing it first!
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:08 am to ShoeBang
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Someone’s got to be these people’s daddy since their own fathers weren’t up to the task
Ahhh, the bigotry of soft expectations so common to leftists like you.
Blacks are too stupid to get IDs
Let’s lower school standards because “underprivileged minorities” don’t get the same opportunities as the white kids.
Let’s put the army in the ghetto because they can’t police themselves.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:12 am to wackatimesthree
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I also don't think it's a bad thing if governors or mayors refuse to cooperate with and instead deliberately impede the enforcement of federal immigration law.
Breaking immigration laws by officials sworn to uphold Law. Much like deploying the NG to crime ridden crap hole cities, Trump is allowing Democrats tp openly prove, with video evidence, when he claims they are openly trying to destroy America.
He's simply letting Democrats openly destroy themselves.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:15 am to HeadCall
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Ahhh, the bigotry of soft expectations so common to leftists like you.
Ummm, you read my reply to another user completely wrong. If you read my poli talk post history, I believe youll find im anything but a leftist, but it sounds like you didn't want to read or comprehend the genesis of my reply and were just a' huntin' to call someone a leftist.
What I mean is be their daddy is: since no one chose to discipline these heathens as children, not the government has to stop in and do it by arresting them and incarcerating them.
It would would have been better if society didn't just start ignoring the importance of family somewhere in the late 70s and now someone has to clean up the mess.
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Let’s put the army in the ghetto because they can’t police themselves.
Pretty much - yes. They have proven that they cannot operate in the same society as the rest of us, so something must be done to stop the proverbial bleeding.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:21 am to Gorilla Ball
I wonder what Helena Moreno would say about the National Guard coming into Nola to fight crime…
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:21 am to SlowFlowPro
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Everyone understands if you ramp up authoritarianism and expand the Police State, crime will decrease. The question is the cost (both in terms of rights and money) and long-term policy.
Is New Orleans your example?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:23 am to ShoeBang
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Ummm, you read my reply to another user completely wrong. If you read my poli talk post history, I believe youll find im anything but a leftist, but it sounds like you didn't want to read or comprehend the genesis of my reply and were just a' huntin' to call someone a leftist. What I mean is be their daddy is: since no one chose to discipline these heathens as children, not the government has to stop in and do it by arresting them and incarcerating them. It would would have been better if society didn't just start ignoring the importance of family somewhere in the late 70s and now someone has to clean up the mess.
No I read your post correctly.
Black people cant take of themselves so we have to do it for them is peak liberal thought
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:30 am to HeadCall
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Black people cant take of themselves so we have to do it for them is peak liberal thought
Pretty racist of you to infer black people are the problem. I did no such thing.
So your solution to rampant crime that affects everyday people is to just what? Wait it out? Let them figure out how to stop it on their own?
At a certain point, someone with some sense and decorum has to step in and say "enough is enough" and it's fairly obvious it wasn't the current city administration or the community as a whole that was going to.
When the children are fighting and won't stop, dad has to step in. Simple.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:33 am to ShoeBang
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Pretty racist of you to infer black people are the problem. I did no such thing.
It’s not racist to infer that the highest crime areas in the country are majority black neighborhoods. A big reason is because of the lack of fathers and the nuclear family like you said.
Deploying the US Army to their neighborhoods is a bandaid for the symptom, not a cure for the disease.
I applaud Trump’s attention to the problem but not his approach to fixing it.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:36 am to HeadCall
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It’s not racist to infer that the highest crime areas in the country are majority black neighborhoods. A big reason is because of the lack of fathers and the nuclear family like you said.
Deploying the US Army to their neighborhoods is a bandaid for the symptom, not a cure for the disease.
I applaud Trump’s attention to the problem but not his approach to fixing it.
Ok so we actually agree for the most part.
Right now, they need a bandaid to stop the bleeding before a cure can be implemented. Maybe Trump's approach is wrong, maybe not. Time will tell. I applaud him for doing something about the issue personally. Doing anything is better than nothing at this point.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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And DC is whatever, since it's federal. The admin is trying to attack states' rights in this area nationally, now, and expanding federal control over local/states.
No. The admin isn’t trying to attack states’ rights.
DC apparently was fudging statistics to make it appear crime was falling, when it wasn’t.
This blitz has resulted apparently in over 1,000 arrests. Regular, everyday people are being interviewed, and they’re stating they see a difference. At the same time the Dem leadership is still squawking that there wasn’t a problem. When Trump pulls the Feds and the Guard out, crime will start rising again. The residents will see the difference.
Chicago has a massive crime/shooting issue. The Mayor and Governor insist there isn’t an issue, the residents say otherwise. There were 30 shootings in Chicago this past weekend, a five year old was killed.
What Trump is doing is masterful. Swarm federal and military in to make an effect and drop crime, make people feel safer, and the people start waking up wondering why their elected leadership let it slide so long with nonsense about defunding police and allowing sanctuary city policies.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:23 am to Indefatigable
Ok thanks
I’ll never understand the left
I’ll never understand the left
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:24 am to captainFid
What are you talking about?
I’m not a Biden supporter
Geez
I’m not a Biden supporter
Geez
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:27 am to DeltaDoc
Agreed
Im a conservative and I don’t understand the downvotes
Im a conservative and I don’t understand the downvotes
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:27 am to Gorilla Ball
quote:Can you not understand that once it gets to a certain point, the national guard is a necessity? Its reached that point. Why is that so hard for you to get?
I just don’t get it?
And at what point is it OK to actually call in the national guard?
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